Post-Game Talk: Plus-Minus Thread | Opener edition | Penguins 3, Devils 0

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  1. shureshot66

    shureshot66 Registered User

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    + Fleury. Baby steps. I'll take it.

    + Kobasew and his style make me feel a lot better about the third line going forward. Think he's a much better fit than D'Agostini.

    + Outside of one bad turnover, Bennett showed why he's going to be an asset playing on either the second or the third line. I really have no problem with him being an engine for the third line (when Neal is healthy) with the grit he's shown in his game.


    - Glass, taking a dumb penalty when he's trusted with minutes late in the game. Lucky it was a three-goal game at that point. Bylsma also yelled at him to "stop the ****ing yapping" during that timeout after the lousy icing call because he was still talking to the refs when they were trying to diagram a play.

    - Hybrid icing in general. Not a fan.

    - Haven't heard if it's the same injury for Neal yet or a new one, but it's easy to second-guess why he was playing at all tonight if it was in doubt.

    Hack away, boys.
     
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    Randy Butternubs Registered User

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    Hate to say it, but Glass was a positive.
     
  3. MrBurghundy

    MrBurghundy Never forget: #47 & #41

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    Bennett was really feeling it at the end of the 2nd period and was promptly given less ice time.
     
  4. alcanalz

    alcanalz whys and wherefores

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    + MAF - Playoffs are all that matters for him and us, but it's still great to see a big win to start off the season. I'm definitely rooting for him to have a great year and playoffs, because if not this is definitely his last one here. Go Flower.

    + Glass - Guy had a good game, credit where it's due.

    + Bennett - Beast, everywhere.

    + The D - Everyone was good out there. We missed Letang's skillset back there but they locked it down for most of the game. I forgot how solid Scuderi was too.

    - Kunitz - Looked like he could have used another preseason game... or ten.

    - Put me on the 'against hybrid icing' team too. It's dumb and that icing on Glass was dumb.
     
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    Darth Vitale Dark Matter

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    + Fleury
    + Glass didn't suck
    + Beaunerville
    + Maatta (for the most part)

    - Bob Errey has found a new object for his Freudian man-lust (Maatta), bringing back talk of long reaches and big sticks. It's almost enough to make me hope Oli gets sent back to London in a few games.

    - Steigerwald... you two ass-clowns need to decide if you're hockey announcers or PR (wo)men. Or MAF's *****.
     
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    + MAF solid game great penalty shot save. Behind the back save will be an awesome gif
    + Hate to say it Tanner Glass. solid game. Physical. actually showed some speed. Dumb penalty at end.
    + Orpik physical presence nice hits on Jagr and Elias

    - Malkin awful giveaway. Floated too much. Got knocked off puckDoesn't hustle every game like the other $8 million dollar man.
     
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    +Flower's behind the back save and shut out
    +Kobachoo scoring

    -Neal getting hurt
     
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    -- to everyone but MAF and Sid: any game in which we get outshot by offensively challenged team
    but its only first game
     
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    oh boy here we go again:help:
     
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    3:29 in the third period. :laugh:
     
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    If tonight is any indication at all, I think people are going to have to get used to shot totals like that. Looks like they're really going to collapse around the net defensively when they get a lead.

    Not a coincidence that all three goals today came in transition on the counterattack.
     
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    + Maatta. Rookie mistakes aside, he looked solid
    + 3rd line
    + Jacques Martin


    +/- Flower and Glass giving us (false) hope



    - Beauner getting 12:46 of ice time :laugh:


    :cry:

    - Neal (re)injury
     
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    Darth Vitale Dark Matter

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    Those God damn lazy comm'nist Russians! It's an Olympic year, we should probably trade him.
     
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    + Hockey's back!
     
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    + Team Defense...and still scored 3
    + MAF...positioning
    + Bennett...kid can make plays
    + Bortuzzo...solid hits
    + Sutter...some fire in him for a change
    + Kobasew...nice start for him

    +/- Kunitz...looked 1/2 step slow out there...time to worry?
     
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    Fleury +50
    Glass +
    Bortuzzo +
    Kobasew+
    Martin+
    Scuds+
    Team win+++++++++++++++++++++++
     
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    + Flower
    + Malkin ... He can turn any winger into a 40 goal scorer :sarcasm:
    + Tanner Glass for taking that penalty there at the end so HFBoards didn't completely melt down

    Bizarro world tonight, eh? I think I even saw the team playing some defense. Nice start to the season
     
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    +Overall defensive zone play
    -Tried to force too much stuff at the offensive blue line. Against a more skilled/faster team that's just asking for trouble.
    +Flower, not saying he had a world changing game but there's something about "how he was making saves"/"style" that inclines me to have hope that maybe just maybe he can return to his former ways.
    -Das Kun/Duper looked slow and off time most of the night. They have a long enough track record of success that I'll give them a pass for now.

    Aside from that I'll just generally agree with what everyone else already said.
     
  19. KIRK

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    What did you expect? Set up Neal, JJ, and Bennett for prime looks all night. Sets up a goal for Adams on which Glass gets the other assist (that he's now done that with those two and Gill/Scuds means there should be no HHOF waiting period . . . he should be in now :laugh:). Hawking the puck all night. Line juggled all night (maybe 3-4 shifts with Bennett AFTER Neal went down). So typical . . . :laugh:
     
  20. shureshot66

    shureshot66 Registered User

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    Pittsburgh Penguins ‏@penguins
    James Neal (upper-body). #Pens didn't want to aggravate it in 1st game of season. Will be evaluated tomorrow, per coach Bylsma
     
  21. froods

    froods I blame Paul Martin and Jack Johnson

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    Matt Niskanen had 5 blocked shots
    Rob Scuderi showed what we have been missing.
    Maatta was very poised minus a couple hiccups. Smart player.
    Bortuzzo looks like a different player. Solid.
    I like Glass, Adams, Kobesew a lot
    Jokinen was all over the place.

    I really thought Kunitz and Duper were awful. Kunitz looked tired, weird in game 1?
    Duper was making bad decisions.

    Flower was a beast.
     
  22. Fogel

    Fogel Analytics please

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    Beau with the 2nd lowest ES mins after Jeffrey. If he isn't top 6, he should at least get top 9 minutes.
     
  23. KIRK

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    Sid impressed me. Kunitz-Sid-Duper did not. Maybe a half dozen sweet shifts against a meh team (good structure, not great defensive personnel). Pretty much what one would expect from the best regular season line in hockey.
     
  24. vabm8

    vabm8 Gimme that heart and soul. #character #grit

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    - Dupuis and Kunitz. Those two are going to stress me out.
    - Bennett's minutes.
    - Niskanen's stupid moment.
    - Injuries.

    + Fleury, but it's just one regular season game. Steiggy.
    + Maatta was damn impressive.
    + Bortuzzo.
    + Kobasew is fitting in well.
    + "Team toughness"
    + Crosby

    Shooting Crosby or passing Crosby?
     
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    We've come to expect it from him but I think Sid deserves a + for being a faceoff monster at 68%. Also looked sharp as ever. If only his wingers hadn't fumbled pretty much every attack he set them up for.
     

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