Not like the Isles are playing with 3 of their top 6 D, and filling their places with a guy who was a healthy scratch for 70 games, a guy who has less than 10 games total NHL experience, and Brian Strait, who is basically the Tanner Glass of the blueline.
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Not like the Isles are playing with 3 of their top 6 D, and filling their places with a guy who was a healthy scratch for 70 games, a guy who has less than 10 games total NHL experience, and Brian Strait, who is basically the Tanner Glass of the blueline.
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Intriguing,
Have to admit this chart is pretty funny! And then you get to scratch another advanced-stat team off the list after Wednesday, when either Tampa or Detroit are eliminated.
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3 of the top 15 in CF% will still be in the playoffs come Wednesday night. Pretty wild.
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This entire playoffs is quickly becoming unsustainable. League needs to step in and shut it down imo.
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But if two of the top 4 are competing for the cup (obviously a long way away, but not impossible), wouldn't that be another notch in the belt of needing to be a top possession team to actually win
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The season numbers are worthless. Most stat gurus, including the ones in Vegas, use smaller sample sizes. Teams fluctuate too much over the course of a season. It would be more telling to see this compared to the same chart over the last 25-30 games.
Except proper statistical analysis requires a large enough sample size. Does 25-30 games make the cut? I'm not so sure.
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It's very similar to baseball. The A's revolutionized baseball through their stats, but it only works when there's a large enough sample size
And Baseball is the same event over and over and over and over again.
I'm sure they'd be great at predicting shootouts though if that was the entire game.
It would, but we'll see what happens over the next 2 rounds. Both CHI and the winner of TB/DET could be out in the next round.
It should. Especially when you are comparing top teams to others.
But realistically, 11 of the top 15 teams made the playoffs. The best that didn't, LA, missed exclusively because of shootouts, which mess this up a bit. Boston barely missed, and Carolina had a horrid PDO.
This doesn't really make the case people think it's making.
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Saying the Kings missed exclusively because of shootouts is really not accurate. They certainly could have made if had they been more successful with shootouts, but they didn't miss exclusively because of them.
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The 16 teams that made the playoffs this year were also the 16 top teams in 5 on 5 goals for / goals against ratio.
Last years the Kings in the playoffs ended up leading in that same statistic as they won the Cup, Rangers were leading in the playoffs until they ended up playing the Kings.
In the playoffs,
2012-13 Chicago and Boston co led and they were the finals.
2011-12 Kings and Devils were #1, #2 in that stat and they were the finals
2010-11 Boston led in that stats and they won the cup.
Being a good 5 on 5 team over enough playoff games (seems to be around 12-14 playoff games), and scoring more 5 on 5 than the other team seems to have some correlation going on to who does well in the playoffs and this year who made them. (Will be interesting to see if the trend holds up given more playoff games, so far Tampa is leading in that stat, and Detroit (special teams getting it done) is last, so who knows there, but the only team to advance so far while being at less than 1 ratio is Minnesota at .90 with a playoff leading 33% PP conversion rate)
Having more shots (attempted or on net) than the other team 5 on 5 also seems to correlate somewhat but unless those shots eventually turn into goals either for or against I'll continue to believe shot quality, the shooters and the goalies ability, along with match-ups, style of play, etc all have something to do with how it plays out more so than just using shots for and against as a barometer. (basically a high PDO is not just luck in all occasions)
Last years the Kings in the playoffs ended up leading in that same statistic as they won the Cup, Rangers were leading in the playoffs until they ended up playing the Kings.
In the playoffs,
2012-13 Chicago and Boston co led and they were the finals.
2011-12 Kings and Devils were #1, #2 in that stat and they were the finals
2010-11 Boston led in that stats and they won the cup.
Being a good 5 on 5 team over enough playoff games (seems to be around 12-14 playoff games), and scoring more 5 on 5 than the other team seems to have some correlation going on to who does well in the playoffs and this year who made them. (Will be interesting to see if the trend holds up given more playoff games, so far Tampa is leading in that stat, and Detroit (special teams getting it done) is last, so who knows there, but the only team to advance so far while being at less than 1 ratio is Minnesota at .90 with a playoff leading 33% PP conversion rate)
Having more shots (attempted or on net) than the other team 5 on 5 also seems to correlate somewhat but unless those shots eventually turn into goals either for or against I'll continue to believe shot quality, the shooters and the goalies ability, along with match-ups, style of play, etc all have something to do with how it plays out more so than just using shots for and against as a barometer. (basically a high PDO is not just luck in all occasions)
They had a better ROW than some of the playoff teams if I'm not mistaken. Their horrid shootout performance is an anomaly in and of itself. But then again, advanced stats "predict" success in the game of hockey, not necessary earning points. Once it goes to a shootout you are playing for a point that's inherent anti advanced stat.
