# Playing with Score Effects

Discussion in 'By The Numbers' started by Doctor No, Jan 9, 2019.

1. ### Doctor NoRegistered User

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An underlying hypothesis of score effects is that when a team is trailing, they take more shots on net in a deliberate trade between (increasing) quantity and (decreasing) quality.

A consequence is that winning goaltenders will (a) face more shots on average, and (b) have a higher save percentage.

This is a thread where I'll put interesting (to me) tables as I develop adjustments for my goalie data models.

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2017-18 NHL regular season, since it's complete. Shots and saves by period (just to get a baseline).

We all understand that save percentages are lower in overtime (significantly). They are also lower (with more shots faced) in the second period, where the change is longer for both teams.

 SV SH 1st 24,283 26,440 0.918 2nd 25,102 27,678 0.907 3rd 23,287 25,459 0.915 OT 1,094 1,287 0.850

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2017-18 NHL regular season data, split by the score at first intermission. "I1D" reflects the goaltender's team position at the first intermission - for instance, "2" means that the goaltender's team is ahead by two at the intermission. Shots and saves in the table below reflect second-period data (so the period immediately following the intermission).

 I1D Instances SV SH AV SH SV% -5 2 15 18 9.0 0.833 -4 11 93 103 9.4 0.903 -3 57 533 587 10.3 0.908 -2 209 1,890 2,129 10.2 0.888 -1 530 5,031 5,560 10.5 0.905 0 924 8,978 9,897 10.7 0.907 1 530 5,625 6,153 11.6 0.914 2 209 2,164 2,388 11.4 0.906 3 57 631 689 12.1 0.916 4 11 115 125 11.4 0.920 5 2 27 29 14.5 0.931
I would say that the values between -2 and 2 are somewhat credible. There does appear to be this effect after 20 minutes, if not a large one.

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2017-18 NHL regular season data, split by the score at second intermission. Shots and saves below reflect third-period data (similar to the above).

 I2D Instances SV SH AV SH SV% -7 1 7 9 9.0 0.778 -6 4 22 27 6.8 0.815 -5 24 199 213 8.9 0.934 -4 62 520 576 9.3 0.903 -3 140 1,034 1,153 8.2 0.897 -2 302 2,332 2,578 8.5 0.905 -1 473 3,820 4,162 8.8 0.918 0 530 4,810 5,270 9.9 0.913 1 473 4,929 5,353 11.3 0.921 2 302 3,240 3,534 11.7 0.917 3 140 1,494 1,633 11.7 0.915 4 62 611 659 10.6 0.927 5 24 237 256 10.7 0.926 6 4 29 33 8.3 0.879 7 1 3 3 3.0 1.000

There does appear to be a similar (and larger) effect here. -1 doesn't seem to fit the overall pattern with respect to SV%. At least for the credible range, shots/period look to follow a clear pattern.

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One to-do is for me to adjust for team quality - for instance, stronger teams generally have higher shooting percentages (so opposing goaltenders generally have lower save percentages), and stronger teams are leading at the intermission more often than not.

Empty net goals are excluded from the above.

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Did you see the adjacent thread where I posted the correlation graph between the Saves and SVP?

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