Players you would still prefer over Cammalleri

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  1. Frolov 6'3

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    Perhaps a weird question but Cammalleri was drafted 49th overall in 2001 and looking through the list of names of that draftyear...what players would you still prefer over Cammalleri ??

    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    3 Alexandr Svitov
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    6 Mikko Koivu
    7 Mike Komisarek
    8 Pascal Leclaire
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    10 Dan Blackburn
    11 Fredrik Sjostrom
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    15 Igor Knyazev
    16 R.J. Umberger
    17 Carlo Colaiacovo
    18 Jens Karlsson
    19 Shaone Morrisonn
    20 Marcel Goc
    21 Colby Armstrong
    22 Jiri Novotny
    23 Tim Gleason
    24 Lukas Krajicek
    25 Alexander Perezhogin
    26 Jason Bacashihua
    27 Jeff Woywitka
    28 Adrian Foster
    29 Adam Munro
    30 Dave Steckel

    Round 2

    31 Matthew Spiller
    32 Derek Roy
    33 Timofei Shishkanov
    34 Greg Watson
    35 Mark Popovic
    36 Kyle Wanvig
    37 Duncan Milroy
    38 Tim Jackman
    39 Karel Pilar D
    40 Fedor Tjutin
    41 Andrei Taratukhin
    42 Tomas Slovak
    43 Doug Lynch
    44 Igor Pohanka
    45 Martin Podlesak
    46 Mike Zigomanis
    47 Alexander Polushin
    48 Tuomas Pihlman
    49 Mike Cammalleri
     
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    Kovalchuk, possibly Ruutu.
     
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    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    7 Mike Komisarek
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    17 Carlo Colaiacovo
    20 Marcel Goc
    23 Tim Gleason
    25 Alexander Perezhogin
    32 Derek Roy
    40 Fedor Tjutin
    49 Mike Cammalleri

    theres my list... kind of torn between roy, hemsky and cammalleri.... not sure who would be the better NHLer at this point
     
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    Only two ?? You must be a huge Cammalleri fan. ;)
     
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    1. Ilya Kovalchuk
    2. Jason Spezza
    6. Mikko Koivu
    7. Mike Komisarek
    9. Tuomo Ruutu
    12. Dan Hamhuis
    25. Alexander Perezhogin

    Now those that I didn't see much or don't know much about, but that might be in Cammalleri's league:

    Marcel Goc, Shaone Morrison, Lukas Krajicek, Derek Roy, Fedor Tjutin, Fredrik Sjostrom, Timofei Shishkanov.
     
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    in no order

    1. Kovalchuk
    2. Spezza
    3. Koivu
    4. Ruutu
    5. Perezhogin
    6. Komisarek (maybe)

    too even see Adam Munro at 29 ahead of Cammalleri makes me cringe as a Hawks fan.
     
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    i agree he has done very well - but it doesnt mean a thing until he does it in the bigs. many of the guys he seems better than at this point could end up better pros. you have a point though - he looks very good right now.
     
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    Ilya Kovalchuk
    Jason Spezza
    Mikko Koivu
    Pascal Leclaire
    Tuomo Ruutu
    Dan Hamhuis
    Ales Hemsky
    Chuck Kobasew
    Carlo Colaiacovo
    Shaone Morrisonn
    Marcel Goc
    Tim Gleason
    Alexander Perezhogin
    Jeff Woywitka
    Derek Roy
    Timofei Shishkanov
    Fedor Tjutin

    Then Mike Cammy
     
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    I would still take these before Cammalleri (in no particular order though):

    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    3 Alexandr Svitov
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    6 Mikko Koivu
    7 Mike Komisarek
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    11 Fredrik Sjostrom
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    16 R.J. Umberger
    17 Carlo Colaiacovo
    19 Shaone Morrisonn
    20 Marcel Goc
    23 Tim Gleason
    24 Lukas Krajicek
    25 Alexander Perezhogin
    32 Derek Roy
    35 Mark Popovic
    40 Fedor Tjutin
    49 Mike Cammalleri
     
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    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    4 Stephen Weiss
    6 Mikko Koivu
    7 Mike Komisarek
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    17 Carlo Colaiacovo
    20 Marcel Goc
    23 Tim Gleason
    25 Alexander Perezhogin
    27 Jeff Woywitka
    40 Fedor Tjutin


    These are probably the only guys I would pick before Cammy.
     
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    Guys drafted before:

    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    3 Alexander Svitov
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    6 Mikko Koivu
    7 Mike Komisarek
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    11 Fredrik Sjostrom
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    16 R.J. Umberger
    17 Carlo Colaiacovo
    19 Shaone Morrisonn
    20 Marcel Goc
    23 Tim Gleason
    24 Lukas Krajicek
    25 Alexander Perezhogin
    27 Jeff Woywitka

    Round 2

    32 Derek Roy
    33 Timofei Shishkanov
    40 Fedor Tjutin

    Guys taken after:

    62 Igor Grigorenko
    106 Christian Ehrhoff
    172 Dennis Seidenberg
    176 Marek Zidlicky
    189 Pasi Nurminen
     
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    2 Jason Spezza
    3 Alexandr Svitov
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    6 Mikko Koivu
    7 Mike Komisarek
    8 Pascal Leclaire
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    10 Dan Blackburn
    11 Fredrik Sjostrom
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    33 Derek Roy

    then Cammalleri
     
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    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    3 Alexander Svitov
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    6 Mikko Koivu
    7 Mike Komisarek
    8 Pascal Leclaire
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    16 R.J. Umberger
    17 Carlo Colaiacovo
    19 Shaone Morrisonn
    23 Tim Gleason
    24 Lukas Krajicek
    25 Alexander Perezhogin
    27 Jeff Woywitka

    Round 2

    32 Derek Roy
    33 Timofei Shishkanov
    40 Fedor Tjutin
    43 Doug Lynch
     
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    Why do you put Svitov in this list Cammy is a lot better than him!
     
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    2 Jason Spezza
    3 Alexandr Svitov
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    6 Mikko Koivu
    7 Mike Komisarek
    8 Pascal Leclaire
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    10 Dan Blackburn
    11 Fredrik Sjostrom
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    16 R.J. Umberger
    17 Carlo Colaiacovo
    19 Shaone Morrisonn
    20 Marcel Goc
    23 Tim Gleason
    24 Lukas Krajicek
    25 Alexander Perezhogin
    26 Jason Bacashihua
    27 Jeff Woywitka
    31 Matthew Spiller
    32 Derek Roy
    33 Timofei Shishkanov
    35 Mark Popovic
    40 Fedor Tjutin
    47 Alexander Polushin
    49 Mike Cammalleri
     
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    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    8 Pascal Leclaire
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    19 Shaone Morrisonn
    35 Mark Popovic
    40 Fedor Tjutin

    and then

    49 Mike Cammalleri

    I think. Although its still a little too early to tell properly, i think the kings got a steal.

    Novotny was a horrible pick for the Sabres.
     
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    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    4 Stephen Weiss
    5 Stanislav Chistov
    7 Mike Komisarek
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    11 Fredrik Sjostrom
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    20 Marcel Goc
    23 Tim Gleason
    24 Lukas Krajicek
    25 Alexander Perezhogin
    32 Derek Roy
    40 Fedor Tjutin
    49 Mike Cammalleri
     
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    Just looking at whom LA picked there with Steckel and Karlsson in the 1st round I'm glad they were able to take Cammalleri when they did since I don't know that their 2 first rounders will amount to much.

    I think Cammalleri still would go towards the bottom of the 1st round if the draft was held over. There are still questions about his size and if he can reproduce his AHL success in the NHL.
     
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    Still too hard to say. I never liked to officially evaluate a draft, or where players should have gone, until five years after the draft. In my pre-draft rankings in 2001, I had him in my top 20. Always thought the kid was an offensive gem. Had him ahead of Umberger (and boy, I wish the Canucks would have listened to me on that draft day). Based on what we've seen at the AHL level, and last year's early flurry in the NHL, he looks like a potential top-line forward.

    Will Svitov develop into a Primeau/Holik type, or will he keep being a nutcase? Will Chistov rediscover his rookie year form, or keep playing below his talent, like the last two years? Can Kobasew take his scoring prowess from the AHL to the NHL? Can Dan Blackburn and Adrian Foster return to health?

    Safe to say, there are some players I would take ahead of him now, and always will. (Kovalchuk, Spezza, Hamhuis, Ruutuu, and a few others). On the flipside, it's safe to assume Cammy will be better than some drafted ahead of him. (Knayzev, Karlsson, Novotny, Monro and Steckel, for example). But I'll wait on the development of some of the other players mentioned above before stating for certain who I'd take ahead of him.
     
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    In order...

    1 Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Jason Spezza
    9 Tuomo Ruutu
    12 Dan Hamhuis
    13 Ales Hemsky
    14 Chuck Kobasew
    7 Mike Komisarek
    49 Mike Cammalleri
     
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