ColdSteel2
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How about Pahlsson against Spezza in 2007?
Esa Tikkanen was one of the best in the 80's.
Bob Bassen on Roenick in the 1993 playoffs, a real poor one for Roenick. I remember him saying something to the effect that he expected Bassen to follow him to the washroom.
I'm pretty sure the main reason the Pens traded for Kasparaitis was because of how he got under Lemieux's skin.
Ron Ellis did a wonderful job of shadowing Kharlamov after Game 1 of the Summit Series in 1972. Something that gets forgotten.
Wasn't it Lidstrom and Murphy that really did a number on Lindros in 1997?
Crosby got shadowed by Zetterberg and then Lidstrom and Rafalski if I remember correctly in 2009. They had to pick either Malkin or Crosby and they did. It almost worked too.
Who was doing it to the Sedins in 2011? Was it Marchand specifically? I know he got under their skin. But they just shut down completely those two.
For sure shadowing still exists, it is a tactic that is underrated and rarely talked about. How about Pahlsson against Spezza in 2007?
How about Pahlsson against everybody that season. He deserves the Selke that year IMO. And his postseason work was great as well obviously.
Defenceman shadowing a forward? That would be a pretty loose use of the term "shadow" ...
One of the best ever 'shadow' stories ever is from either the '89 or '90 playoffs when the Oilers were playing LA.
Sather gave Tikkanen instructions not to let Gretzky leave his side - or something to that effect - so he took it to heart and on their first morning the teams were in LA together Gretzky woke up, went into his kitchen, and found Tikkanen eating cereal at his kitchen table with Janet.
Defenceman shadowing a forward? That would be a pretty loose use of the term "shadow" ...
Who was doing it to the Sedins in 2011? Was it Marchand specifically? I know he got under their skin. But they just shut down completely those two.
Never heard that one before! I really hope that's true, because this is the kind of stuff that I come to HOH to learn. That's awesome, and I can totally see Tikkanen doing that.
i think it's rarer to see shadows that hang on to a guy all game and tug at them, chirp at them, etc. the way tikkanen or kasper did to gretzky. but you do still see third liners "assigned" to star players. i'm sure if malhotra wasn't injured, he'd see a lot of time out there with joe thornton. i know the sedins have seen a lot of dave bolland the last couple of years.
Shadows stopped working when teams discovered the obvious counter tactic. The star player just stands next to another defensive players away from the play, bringing the shadow with him. That tied up two defensive players and created an odd man advantage for the other players on the offensive on the rest of the ice.
Factoid: shadows are the reason the Bruins made Bobby Orr a defenseman. He was primarily forward in junior, but they though that putting him back on defense would keep the shadows off him.
Really? I thought the reasoning was that because defensemen tended to get the most ice time, and because he was their best player, it was best to maximize the amount of time he spent on the ice.
I was re-reading the Bobby Hull coffee table book and there was a pic of him bloodied, courtesy of John Ferguson. In the caption, Hull mentions some of the players assigned to "shadow" him; he respected Bob Nevin, Ed Westfall and Claude Provost, but not Ferguson or Bugsy Watson for their dirty play.
Didn't Subban shadow Crosby the year the Habs upset the Pens?
gretzky mentions it in his autobiography, fwiw
They also lost their 3-0 lead against the Blackhawks once Bolland came back.the other factor that killed them was vigneault didn't believe in reacting to the other coach's line-matching. thought he was too smart for that, and mechanically would put the sedins on the ice whenever they had an offensive zone draw, and always take them off the ice when they had a defensive draw. which of course made it so that julien knew exactly when they were going to be on the ice and so chara/seidenberg plus the selke winner's line were always matched up against them. same thing happened in the nashville series, with weber/suter-- but in that series, it freed kesler to ventilate nashville's other d pairs. AV, so smart he coached away his home ice advantage.