Player With the Most Career Assists to a Single Teammate?

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  1. gudzilla

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    amazing table

    is it possible to add games played for some perspective? seeing kurri-gretzky didnt play together as long as sedins have, etc
     
  2. vadim sharifijanov

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    you know what linemate record the sedins might have a semi-realistic shot at? most shared assists by teammates. i.e., most goals scored by a third teammate assisted by both henrik and daniel sedin.

    other contenders are obvious: howe/delvecchio, gretzky/kurri, gretzky/coffey, combinations of those three islanders superstars... but here's where jagr/francis probably makes the list.

    so... i guess... yet another stats table request for matnor, with all due respect for the hard work.
     
  3. EM71

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    What exactly is your source for all this information? I ask this because I know not of any source providing such detailing game-by-game information prior to the 87-88 season. It's not that I don't want to trust you, but one shouldn't just instantly take unsourced information on the internet at face value these days.
     
  4. matnor

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    Happy you liked the data, I'll try answer the requests as soon as I get time.

    In the meantime, you can check out these related threads ;)

    http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=957543
    http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=832194

    The data come from the Hockey Summary Project, which is compiled by a lot different people. You can get access to the data by joining the Yahoo group. The data do contain some errors but it typically doesn't differ more than one or two points per player and season.
     
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    I'm beyond impressed that Bossy-to-Trottier (yeah, you've read this right) is #5 of all time! Guess Mike was not just a one-dimensional trigger after all.:handclap:
     
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    thanks matnor.
     
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    Be interesting to see where the Punch Line trio would fall on that list..
     
  8. matnor

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    Here's Sittler-McDonald:


    Top 5 for Lafleur:


    Top 5 for Hull:


    Top 5 for Lemieux:

     
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    Top 5 for these players:

     
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    That's a bit trickier. From 87/88 it could be done, but before that, the HSP data does not always give information on the rosters for each game.
     
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    And these are the duos where the goal scorer has at least 50 goals and where one player has assisted on at least 40% of the goals:


    And with that I'm done for the night :)
     
  12. thegoldenyear

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    I liked seeing that too :yo: - as an '80s kid I had to defend my guy on a lot of playgrounds and school cafeterias to the Lafleur, McDonald (grew up in Toronto...go figure) and Kurri camps.
     
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    My bad, btw: I braincramped badly, focussing on Trottier's earlier career start and somehow convincing myself they only played eight seasons together in New York. That was careless.

    The rough GPG calculation does suggest Bossy was less reliant on Trottier for direct feeds than Kurri was Gretzky, but the differences in team attack styles accounts for a little of that. That everyone knew 99 was looking for 17 but were so often overmatched is delicious; I take nearly as much pleasure from that as the notion Bossy fed Trottier at nearly twice the "share" rate the Oiler winger fed his centre. I like numbers that prove Bossy wasn't a Brett Hull-style pure finisher. Because he wasn't.

    It appears our respective favourite C-RW pairings are the two most dominant in NHL history. Nice company.
     
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    thegoldenyear RIP Bowtie Bill

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    Matt Moulson! Poor guy, goals appear difficult to come by in Buffalo.
     
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    Wow, Daniel Marois! Not surprising.
     
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    Thanks Matnor. Can you believe that Lemaire was Lafleur's centerman for 3 years? Little M was his c-man for only a couple. This data will support my thesis on how Lemaire resented Lafleur when they played together and how he acted this out when he got behind the bench. ;)
     
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    So, you were right. Here is the list for number of times two players assisted on the same goal.

     
  18. vadim sharifijanov

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    oh wow, thanks for running the numbers. i must say, the degree of their lead surprises even me.

    and i'm feeling more than a little bit proud that i correctly predicted the top four. surprised jagr and francis are so far down the list though, and especially surprised that getzlaf and perry have already surpassed them. i'm guessing there's a lot of PP goals by selanne in those 87 shared assists.
     
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    True.

    Equally lost among the stereotyping of players is the fact that Trottier was an elite offensive producer. That's often lost in the "great all around player" cliche.
     
  20. vadim sharifijanov

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    do people really forget that he won an art ross?
     
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    You know, they just might overlook his and Dionne's because "the torch" was passed from Lafleur to Gretzky. Plus the Isles choked that year. Maybe more so Dionne's because 99 actually tied him that year.
     
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    I dont' see the chart anywhere. Might be interesting to update with the Sedin's retiring.
     
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    Unfortunately, all the old tables didn't survive the migration to the new board.

    But now that the official boxscores are available, hopefully one of the spreadsheet experts on here can provide an updated list. There's already been a lot of great data posted here over the past few months.
     
  24. vadim sharifijanov

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    i spent way too long the other day trying to find a cache of these tables on archive.org and google.

    i would love to see the table for number of times two players assisted on the same goal, if anyone can kindly run the numbers.

    it came to light in last night's broadcast that the sedins own two goofy records: henrik has the most regular season overtime assists of all time, while daniel has the most regular season overtime powerplay goals of all time. but this is actually a meaningful record that shows their uniqueness.

    now if you'll excuse me, i have some tearing up to get back to.
     
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    573 goals/553 assists
    Playoffs 85 goals/75 assists
    Not just a goal scorer!
     
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