Post-Game Talk: Player Performance Tracking: Contributing to Goals For/Against

[SimplySensational]

With only two goals last night, it'll be any easy first track for me. I'll get back to the first six games eventually (hopefully):

Game 7 - New York Rangers @ Washington Capitals

5-on-5:

• Callahan goal:
  Carlson -0.5 (Allowed Callahan to get in front of the net)
  Ovechkin -0.3 (Didn't contest Callahan's shot)
  Urbom -0.2 (Moved out from in front of the net, but wasn't able to deflect/contest Richards' pass)
  
  4-on-4:
• Moore goal:
  Carlson -0.4 (Ditched Moore)
  Fehr -0.3 (Didn't pick up Moore when Carlson ditched him)
  Holtby -0.3 (That was a savable shot)

What.... The puck was in the air and it was in the air because Ovechkin got his stick in there when he saw Carlson got beat.

 

[ChibiPooky]

With only two goals last night, it'll be any easy first track for me. I'll get back to the first six games eventually (hopefully):

Game 7 - New York Rangers @ Washington Capitals

5-on-5:

• Callahan goal:
  Carlson -0.5 (Allowed Callahan to get in front of the net)
  Ovechkin -0.3 (Didn't contest Callahan's shot)
  Urbom -0.2 (Moved out from in front of the net, but wasn't able to deflect/contest Richards' pass)
  
  4-on-4:
• Moore goal:
  Carlson -0.4 (Ditched Moore)
  Fehr -0.3 (Didn't pick up Moore when Carlson ditched him)
  Holtby -0.3 (That was a savable shot)

Myst, good to see your first. Do you want 5-on-5 and 4-on-4 tracked separately or lumped together as "even strength?"

 

[Hivemind]

Myst, good to see your first. Do you want 5-on-5 and 4-on-4 tracked separately or lumped together as "even strength?"

Separately. If I end up keeping on this, I'm at least going to try and be as specific as possible about it.

 

[ChibiPooky]

Separately. If I end up keeping on this, I'm at least going to try and be as specific as possible about it.

Yours is HUGE. Split out into 5v4, 5v3, 4v3, 5v5, 4v4, 3v3, 4v5, 3v5, 3v4. Need weighting scheme to reach "overall" number. Can weight 5v4, 5v3, 4v3 within PP (and similarly for the other categories) as well.

 

[Hivemind]

Yours is HUGE. Split out into 5v4, 5v3, 4v3, 5v5, 4v4, 3v3, 4v5, 3v5, 3v4. Need weighting scheme to reach "overall" number. Can weight 5v4, 5v3, 4v3 within PP (and similarly for the other categories) as well.

If your primary goal is to reach a final number, you can simplify it to ES, PP, and PK. Doesn't really make all that much of a difference. I'm sure the relative rarity of goals in the "even strength but not full strength" scenario is going to make them rather small blips on the radar. If we were tracking shots/opportunities, it would be one thing, but goals are far less frequent.

 

[ChibiPooky]

If your primary goal is to reach a final number, you can simplify it to ES, PP, and PK. Doesn't really make all that much of a difference. I'm sure the relative rarity of goals in the "even strength but not full strength" scenario is going to make them rather small blips on the radar. If we were tracking shots/opportunities, it would be one thing, but goals are far less frequent.

It's not a big deal to split it out. I just do also want to have a "final number".

 

[Langway]

Game 7, 10/16/13 V NYR:

Moore ES: Holtby -0.7, Schmidt -0.1, Carlson -0.1, Fehr -0.1
Callahan ES: Carlson -0.7, Ovechkin -0.15, Holtby -0.15

ES:
Fehr -0.1
Schmidt -0.1
Ovechkin -0.15
Carlson -0.8
Holtby -0.85

 

[Hivemind]

Game 8 - Columbus Blue Jackets @ Washington Capitals

Even Strength:

• Laich goal:
  Laich +0.4 (right place to bury the rebound)
  Oleksy +0.4 (dat curl and drag)
  Erat +0.2 (zone entry and getting the puck through the defense to the open ice)
  
• Brouwer goal:
  Brouwer +0.4 (got open, drove the net, and stuck with it)
  Erat +0.5 (perfectly read the play to get the steal and dish to Brouwer)
  Laich +0.1 (his boardwork forced the end around that Erat picked off)
  
• Anisimov goal:
  Grabovski -0.6 (Lost the draw and didn't pick up Anisimov)
  Alzner -0.3 (Gave Gaborik too much room/wasn't able to cancel out the pass)
  Ward -0.1 (Not able to get the puck after the draw)

Powerplay:

• Ward goal:
  +0.5 Ward (nailed the shot)
  +0.3 Johansson (perfect pass)
  +0.2 Backstrom (faked out MacKenzie)
  
• Ovechkin goal:
  +0.4 Ovechkin (bullet)
  +0.4 Green (great no look pass that froze the defender)
  +0.2 Erat (beautiful pass to Green, that we don't see enough of from the player in that spot on the PP

 

[Langway]

Game 8, 10/19/13 V CBJ:
Ward PP: Ward +0.65, Johansson +0.25, Backstrom +0.1
Laich ES: Laich +0.5, Oleksy +0.3, Erat +0.2
Brouwer ES: Brouwer +0.5, Erat +0.5
Ovechkin PP: Ovechkin +0.6, Green +0.25, Erat +0.15
Anisimov ES: Grabovski -0.6, Ward -0.4

ES:
Erat +0.7
Laich +0.5
Brouwer +0.5
Oleksy +0.3
Ward -0.4
Grabovski -0.6

PP:
Ward +0.65
Ovechkin +0.6
Green +0.25
Johansson +0.25
Erat +0.15
Backstrom +0.1

 

[Langway]

Game 9, 10/22/13 @ WPG:
Grabovski ES: Grabovski +0.5, Erskine +0.2, Ward +0.1, Oleksy +0.1, Chimera +0.1
Little SH: Green -0.6, Brouwer -0.2, Backstrom -0.2
Clitsome ES: Carlson -0.45, Alzner -0.35, Erat -0.2
Ovechkin ES: Ovechkin +0.7, Johansson +0.3
Ovechkin ES: Ovechkin +0.75, Johasson +0.25
Wheeler ES: Oleksy -0.6, Erskine -0.2, Grabovski -0.2
Brouwer PP: Brouwer +0.4, Backstrom +0.4, Ovechkin +0.2
Little ES: Backstrom -0.5, Green -0.25, Schmidt -0.25

ES:
Ovechkin +1.45
Johansson +0.55
Grabovski +0.3
Ward +0.1
Chimera +0.1
Erat -0.2
Schmidt -0.25
Green -0.25
Alzner -0.35
Carlson -0.45
Oleksy -0.5
Backstrom -0.5

PP:
Brouwer +0.2
Backstrom +0.2
Ovechkin +0.2
Green -0.6

 

[Langway]

Game 10, 10/24/13 @ EDM:
Ovechkin ES: Ovechkin +0.7, Johansson +0.15, Backstrom +0.15
Ward ES: Ward +0.5, Chimera +0.25, Carlson +0.15, Alzner +0.1
Backstrom ES: Backstrom +0.4, Johansson +0.35, Ovechkin +0.25
Chimera ES: Chimera +0.55, Grabovski +0.45
Schultz ES: Erskine -0.6, Wilson -0.2, Oleksy -0.1, Fehr -0.1

ES:
Ovechkin +0.95
Chimera +0.8
Backstrom +0.55
Ward +0.5
Johansson +0.5
Grabovski +0.45
Carlson +0.15
Alzner +0.1
Fehr -0.1
Oleksy -0.1
Wilson -0.2
Erskine -0.6

 

[Langway]

Game 11, 10/26/13 @ CGY:
Russell ES: Carlson -0.7, Erat -0.15, Laich -0.15
Hudler ES: Green -0.6, Erat -0.2, Schmidt -0.1, Ovechkin -0.1
Chimera ES: Chimera +0.6, Grabovski +0.2, Fehr +0.2
Cammalleri ES: Erat -0.4, Laich -0.3, Erskine -0.3
Volpatti ES: Volpatti +0.6, Schmidt +0.25, Green +0.15
Cammalleri ES: Neuvirth -0.7, Schmidt -0.15, Laich -0.15
Glencross ES: Green -0.4, Grabovski -0.3, Chimera -0.3

ES:
Volpatti +0.6
Chimera +0.3
Fehr +0.2
Grabovski -0.1
Ovechkin -0.1
Erskine -0.3
Laich -0.6
Carlson -0.7
Neuvirth -0.7
Erat -0.75
Green -0.85

 

[ChibiPooky]

Thanks Langway and others. I'm mostly away from HF right now due to work but will get these in.

 

[Langway]

Game 12, 10/28/13 @ VAN:
Kassian ES: Neuvirth -0.7, Fehr -0.1, Green -0.1, Schmidt -0.1
Chimera ES: Chimera +0.55, Ward +0.2, Green +0.15, Schmidt +0.1
Grabovski ES: Grabovski +0.65, Chimera +0.35
Kesler ES: Neuvirth -0.6, Ovechkin -0.2, Green -0.2
DSedin ES: Backstrom -0.4, Ovechkin -0.3, Alzner -0.3

Game 13, 11/1/13 @ PHI:
Backstrom ES: Backstrom +0.6, Schmidt +0.25, Erat +0.15
Ward ES: Ward +0.6, Grabovski +0.2, Chimera +0.2
Chimera ES: Chimera +0.8, Grabovski +0.2
Backstrom ES: +0.65, Fehr +0.2, Erat +0.15
Ward ES: Ward +0.65, Chimera +0.25, Grabovski +0.1
Brouwer PP: Brouwer +0.6, Green +0.3, Backstrom +0.1
Ward PP: Ward +0.6, Chimera +0.3, Fehr +0.1

Game 14, 11/2/13 V FLA:
Backstrom ES: Backstrom +0.6, Fehr +0.2, Green +0.1, Schmidt +0.1
Winchester ES: Laich -0.6, Neuvirth -0.3, Oleksy -0.1
Carlson ES: Carlson +0.6, Latta +0.25, Volpatti +0.15
Fleischmann PK: Carlson -0.7, Alzner -0.3

Three game totals:

ES:
Chimera +2.15
Ward +1.45
Backstrom +1.45
Grabovski +1.15
Carlson +0.6
Schmidt +0.35
Erat +0.3
Fehr +0.3
Latta +0.25
Volpatti +0.15
Green -0.05
Oleksy -0.1
Alzner -0.3
Ovechkin -0.5
Laich -0.6
Neuvirth -1.6

PP:
Brouwer +0.6
Ward +0.6
Chimera +0.3
Green +0.3
Backstrom +0.1
Fehr +0.1

PK:
Alzner -0.3
Carlson -0.7

 

[Langway]

Game 15, 11/5/13 V NYI:

Tavares ES: Latta -0.3, Oleksy -0.25, Chimera -0.25, Urbom -0.2
Carlson ES: Carlson +1
Ovechkin PP: Ovechkin +0.75, Backstrom +0.25
Okposo ES: Alzner -0.7, Holtby -0.3
Johansson PP: Johansson +0.5, Backstrom +0.25, Ovechkin +0.25
Urbom ES: Urbom +0.6, Wilson +0.2, Oleksy +0.2
Ovechkin PP: Ovechkin +0.6, Johansson +0.25, Backstrom +0.15
Wilson PP: Wilson +0.55, Ovechkin +0.3, Grabovski +0.15

Game 16, 11/7/13 V MIN:

Ovechkin PP: Ovechkin +0.55, Backstrom +0.25, Johansson +0.1, Brouwer +0.1
Coyle PP: Carlson -0.5, Brouwer -0.3, Alzner -0.2
Granlund ES: Carlson -0.4, Alzner -0.4, Grabovski -0.2
Johansson ES: Johansson +0.6, Wilson +0.25, Laich +0.15

ES:
Carlson +0.6
Johansson +0.6
Wilson +0.45
Urbom +0.4
Laich +0.15
Oleksy -0.1
Chimera -0.2
Grabovski -0.2
Latta -0.3
Holtby -0.3
Alzner -1.1

PP:
Ovechkin +2.45
Backstrom +0.9
Johansson +0.85
Wilson +0.55
Grabovski +0.15
Brouwer +0.1

PK:
Alzner -0.2
Brouwer -0.3
Carlson -0.5

 

[Langway]

Game 17, 11/9/13 @ PHX:
Doan PP: Alzner -0.7, Neuvirth -0.3
Brouwer PP: Brouwer +0.7, Green +0.3
Carlson PP: Carlson +0.7, Johansson +0.3
Ward ES: Ward +0.65, Chimera +0.15, Alzner +0.1, Latta +0.1
Korpikoski ES: Laich -0.4, Neuvirth -0.3, Carlson -0.3
Doan PP: Brouwer -0.4, Alzner -0.4, Carlson -0.2

Game 18, 11/10/13 @ COL:
Bordeleau ES: Holtby -0.7, Schmidt -0.3
Ward ES: Ward +0.8, Chimera +0.2
Holden ES: Ward -0.5, Green -0.5
Parenteau ES: Laich -0.6, Johansson -0.25, Alzner -0.15
Landeskog ES: Ovechkin -0.7, Holtby -0.3

ES:
Ward +0.95
Chimera +0.35
Latta +0.1
Alzner -0.05
Johansson -0.25
Carlson -0.3
Schmidt -0.3
Neuvirth -0.3
Green -0.5
Ovechkin -0.7
Laich -1.0
Holtby -1.0

PP:
Brouwer +0.7
Carlson +0.7
Johansson +0.3
Green +0.3

PK:
Carlson -0.2
Neuvirth -0.3
Brouwer -0.4
Alzner -1.1

The Ward line is by far the most consistent line at even-strength. After that it's probably the fourth line. Good for those guys but the other two lines really need to elevate their games. The whole 'LOLIDKDUMP&CHASE' is part of why they're so inconsistent. Not much of a skill game played at even-strength unless the opposition is soft. The nominal second line having a total of four ES goals is a huge issue as well.

 

[Langway]

Year-to-date totals:

 

[Langway]

Game 19, 11/12/13 V CBJ:
Dubinsky SH: Brouwer -0.5, Holtby -0.2, Green -0.2, Laich -0.1
Carlson ES: Carlson +0.5, Erat +0.25, Grabovski +0.15, Alzner +0.1
Ward SH: Ward +1.0
Boll ES: Schmidt -0.8. Chimera -0.2
Atkinson ES: Green -0.7, Holtby -0.3
Grabovski ES: Grabovski +0.6, Chimera +0.15, Green +0.15, Schmidt +0.1
Ovechkin ES: Ovechkin +0.6, Johansson +0.4

Game 20, 11/15/13 @ DET:
Laich ES: Laich +0.8, Oleksy +0.2
Franzen PP: Oleksy -0.75, Ward -0.25
Franzen ES: Ward -0.4, Grabovski -0.4, Urbom -0.2
DeKeyser PP: Ward -0.5, Chimera -0.5
Ovechkin ES: Ovechkin +0.6, Johansson +0.3, Backstrom +0.1
Latta ES: Latta +0.6, Carlson +0.2, Alzner +0.1, Ward +0.1

ES:
Ovechkin +1.2
Laich +0.8
Johansson +0.7
Carlson +0.7
Latta +0.6
Grabovski +0.35
Erat +0.25
Alzner +0.2
Oleksy +0.2
Backstrom +0.1
Chimera -0.05
Urbom -0.2
Ward -0.3
Holtby -0.3
Green -0.55
Schmidt -0.7

PP:
Laich -0.1
Holtby -0.2
Green -0.2
Brouwer -0.5

PK:
Ward +0.25
Chimera -0.5
Oleksy -0.75