MiamiScreamingEagles
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Player Discussion: Shayne Gostisbehere 2018-19 edition
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Captain Dave Poulin
Imaginary Cat
Fire Hakstok. Wait, what thread ... no, it's fine. Ghost rules, WOO!
FlyTimmo
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I wonder if the rest of this thread will actually be about Ghost? 
Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
Perfect example of why you should take risks outside of the first round. Aim high instead of settling for "safe" players.
FLYguy3911
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Gamblin Ghost.
Now show all of those turnovers at the blue line.
Now show all of those turnovers at the blue line.
Adtar02
@NateThompson44 is a bum
Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
Like the exact opposite of Mark Streit... that guy couldn't keep a puck in to save his life.
Adtar02
@NateThompson44 is a bum
Adtar02
@NateThompson44 is a bum
Tripod
I hate this team
Yeah maybe we try and keep this one on track.I wonder if the rest of this thread will actually be about Ghost?
hatcher
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deadhead
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If he's so great, how come NHL network only ranked him at #17?
There's a tendency here to overrate Flyer players, not that any other fan base demonstrates "homer" tendencies.
Ghost made great strides last year, but the Penguins also exposed his limitations (this is where Striiker comes up with his list of excuses, top players don't need excuses by definition)
Ghost is a top PP QB, he's a good ES defenseman whose size will limit him, especially if he never regains the unearthly burst of his rookie year (he's not an elite straight line skater). If he continues to pay attention to detail, I can see him approaching the top ten in a couple years, but he needs to have that big playoff series to be mentioned with the big boys.
Ghost is a better player than Provorov right now due to his PP excellence, but Provorov has more upside, Provorov has a chance to be a legitimate top ten, even top five defenseman down the road, a 25 minute a night guy who anchors the team in the playoffs.
Sanheim and Myers also have more upside than Ghost but are too far away from knowing if they'll ever approach that ceiling. Sanheim is faster and has the size to be a two way defenseman, though he doesn't have Ghost's offensive instincts and may never develop them. Myers has a chance to be really special if he stays healthy, the size and skills to be dominant everywhere on the ice.
What makes Ghost special is he's elite on the power play, like Giroux, and that's hard to replace, he's clearly better than Karlsson, who dominates him at 5x5, so it's not just skill, but also instinct. Like Giroux, the extra time and space on the power play lets him do things he can't do as easily 5x5.
There's a tendency here to overrate Flyer players, not that any other fan base demonstrates "homer" tendencies.
Ghost made great strides last year, but the Penguins also exposed his limitations (this is where Striiker comes up with his list of excuses, top players don't need excuses by definition)
Ghost is a top PP QB, he's a good ES defenseman whose size will limit him, especially if he never regains the unearthly burst of his rookie year (he's not an elite straight line skater). If he continues to pay attention to detail, I can see him approaching the top ten in a couple years, but he needs to have that big playoff series to be mentioned with the big boys.
Ghost is a better player than Provorov right now due to his PP excellence, but Provorov has more upside, Provorov has a chance to be a legitimate top ten, even top five defenseman down the road, a 25 minute a night guy who anchors the team in the playoffs.
Sanheim and Myers also have more upside than Ghost but are too far away from knowing if they'll ever approach that ceiling. Sanheim is faster and has the size to be a two way defenseman, though he doesn't have Ghost's offensive instincts and may never develop them. Myers has a chance to be really special if he stays healthy, the size and skills to be dominant everywhere on the ice.
What makes Ghost special is he's elite on the power play, like Giroux, and that's hard to replace, he's clearly better than Karlsson, who dominates him at 5x5, so it's not just skill, but also instinct. Like Giroux, the extra time and space on the power play lets him do things he can't do as easily 5x5.
Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
17th is bad? That would make him 1D, I'm assuming based on your comment that you agree on that 17th ranking.
BackToTheBrierePatch
Nope not today.
Ghost is really good at hockey.
Thats all I got right now
Thats all I got right now
BackToTheBrierePatch
Nope not today.
How many NHL defensemen are on rosters league wide? 210? 220? 17 is pretty damn good.
Like most NHL defenseman he has his strengths and weaknesses. You could pick apart 95 percent of the defensemen in the league and find flaws.
He is still a very important part of this team and we are lucky to have him on this club.
The guy has a dozen playoff games under his belt or whatever it is. Its way to early to judge what kind of playoff performer he will be.
hatcher
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Says the games when you watch them. Caps made him cough it 3 times for brea aways and pens twice last year with those stupid siporama's.
Adtar02
@NateThompson44 is a bum
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I'm guessing the usual idiots are already in here making a fool of themselves again?
Adtar02
@NateThompson44 is a bum
what make ghost special is his smarts!!!! he can read plays very very well. hence he is good at keepins, steals, neutral zone moving the puck out of the d zone. why he good do everything he did and put up great numbers. Just like Giroux and Coots and Provy. all stupid smart players. He will never be a big guy to out muscle players so he has to be smarter and has a great stick.
And are you for real ONLY 17 on NHL list. didnt realize that was bad and top ten never seen anyone say anything about that. Here you go again
