GWT: PL Round 22

[Chimaera]

Pogba's performance tonight shows why United should use a midfield three.

Probably, though it doesn’t hurt when Everton had no shots on goal, barely any carry of the play, and no possession. Their midfield is poor at best.

 

[Savant]

Probably, though it doesn’t hurt when Everton had no shots on goal, barely any carry of the play, and no possession. Their midfield is poor at best.

Allardyce always turtles again Yernited

 

[Live in the Now]

I think I would start with him paired with VVD.

 

[Live in the Now]

What a loser this guy is.

 

[Savant]

How to not endear yourself to your supporters @Live in the Now

 

[Live in the Now]

That one can't be real. If Klopp said something similar about Gerrard with the results being what they are I'd want him sacked immediately and I assume United supporters would feel the same if that was said about Scholes.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

f*** Mourinho, but he's not wrong, Gerrard and Lampard were both better than Scholes

 

[Chimaera]

Jose must really feel the heat and need a distraction.

 

[les Habs]

What a loser this guy is.

Same old Mourinho. Hilarious thing is people still probably support him. Were I a United supporter I'd have preferred van Gaal stay. Anyway, I'm guessing he's referring to the post match comments after the draw from the weekend. If so that's kind of laughable as IMO Scholes wasn't nearly critical enough based on what I've seen. I didn't see the match against Southampton, but I did see the lion's share if not all of the post match and Scholes' criticisms of Pogba weren't that bad at all. In fact much of it was constructive. He also pretty much gave Mourinho a free pass which I found a joke at the time. Keown was the one who kept calling out Mourinho. Very obvious Pogba would be better suited if Mourinho fielded a three man midfield. Ridiculous the way Herrera's been used this season and if Herrera were smart he'd slap in a transfer request.

 

[Jussi]

Same old Mourinho. Hilarious thing is people still probably support him. Were I a United supporter I'd have preferred van Gaal stay. Anyway, I'm guessing he's referring to the post match comments after the draw from the weekend. If so that's kind of laughable as IMO Scholes wasn't nearly critical enough based on what I've seen. I didn't see the match against Southampton, but I did see the lion's share if not all of the post match and Scholes' criticisms of Pogba weren't that bad at all. In fact much of it was constructive. He also pretty much gave Mourinho a free pass which I found a joke at the time. Keown was the one who kept calling out Mourinho. Very obvious Pogba would be better suited if Mourinho fielded a three man midfield. Ridiculous the way Herrera's been used this season and if Herrera were smart he'd slap in a transfer request.

Herrera's been used pretty much how his performances this season have earned him. He was Player of The Season last season according to fans IIRC, but he's been far from that form. Fellaini's rise in form as support for Pogba also helped. Early in the season when both took turns in midfield,, Pogba was stellar offensively.

 

[les Habs]

Herrera's been used pretty much how his performances this season have earned him. He was Player of The Season last season according to fans IIRC, but he's been far from that form. Fellaini's rise in form as support for Pogba also helped. Early in the season when both took turns in midfield,, Pogba was stellar offensively.

Wrong. He wasn't even a consistent starter at the beginning of the season much less in preseason. So from the beginning he's been a rotational player at best and thus it clearly had nothing to do with his performances.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Llorente will start tonight since Kane has been felling under the weather. Lamela will start too. Wanyama back on the bench.

 

[Evilo]

So, was Klavan offside or not? Seems to me like he was.

Just for the Ref vs Liverpool stats.

 

[hatterson]

I think he was, it was incredibly close though.

 

[YNWA14]

So, was Klavan offside or not? Seems to me like he was.

Just for the Ref vs Liverpool stats.

Didn't I say it should even out over the season? Though I haven't re-watched the goal since so I'm not sure if it was or wasn't.

What about the Firmino/Salah vs. Lacazette stats? Hope you're still keeping track.

 

[Chimaera]

He was probably offside. I don't think he actually had to touch it, but it was really close. To be able to get that call correct at the time would have been tough with the mass of bodies.

 

[Evilo]

Totally doing so.

Who still believes it evens out? Because :
1/ we only hear tears and cries when it goes one way and nothing when it goes the other way
2/ it's been proven times and times again it dosn't even out.

 

[Live in the Now]

He was probably offside. I don't think he actually had to touch it, but it was really close. To be able to get that call correct at the time would have been tough with the mass of bodies.

Judging by the videos with the offside line, only his arm. Which is not supposed to be counted as offside. He was also behind Lovren when Lovren headed the ball. Maybe offside, but so close benefit should be to the attacker as has been said here many times before.

 

[YNWA14]

So you're saying all the points that Liverpool has dropped this season because of poor reffing decisions isn't going to even out in the end? I didn't even think Klavan needed to touch that header for it to go in TBH, and it's extremely close unlike some of the other decisions that have gone against Liverpool and directly cost them points this season.

But again, of course I'm going to complain when it happens. I then have always firmly said that 1) reffing is extremely difficult and it happens and 2) that hopefully it'll even out by the end of the season.

It just sucks in the moment when it happens.

 

[Chimaera]

Judging by the videos with the offside line, only his arm. Which is not supposed to be counted as offside. He was also behind Lovren when Lovren headed the ball. Maybe offside, but so close benefit should be to the attacker as has been said here many times before.

I haven't seen the crazy zoomed in replays. Only what I saw a few times on the broadcast.


I do think at some point Liverpool will either get a run of lucky breaks, or not. It's what it is.

I do complain that sometimes they've been the unfortunate beneficiary of some mediocre calls, and probably some dropped points, which are only hyper inflated on importance because they're in a dog fight for 4-7th. But all in all, it is what it is until they find some robots to do the officiating.

Some of the EPL officials are bad, but they're not the worst out there.

 

[Evilo]

To be fair indeed, it certainly wasn't a horrible call. Totally understand the ref making a mistake here. But mistake there was. He was offside, period. And no card like "well it was going in anyway". Klavan didn't have to touch it then.

It was offside, it was a tough call, it's mainly hard for Burnsley.

 

[hatterson]

If Klavan doesn't touch it, or interfere with the Burnley defender, there's a chance it gets cleared off the line. His touch wasn't needed, but his presence there certainly helped the goal happen.

 

[Live in the Now]

If Swansea can get any points (spoiler: they won't), that would be great.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Danny Rose has injured his knee again by the way.

 

[hatterson]

If Swansea can get any points (spoiler: they won't), that would be great.

I think their best bet is just slogging the game up and hoping that the rain removes Spurs ability to finish, especially with no Kane.