Discussion in 'Soccer' started by Live in the Now, Jan 1, 2018.
No one here, I don't think, but a lot of morons on the internet.
I think DDG is a better shot stopper than Neuer, best in the world IMO. But not a better all round keeper than Neuer that's for sure.
Saw these charts on twitter a couple days ago comparing expected goals and actual goals conceded:
Neuer and DDG both elite shot stoppers with DDG having higher peaks but generally being a bit lower the past four years. Of course he barely played this year and DDG has had a monster year thus far.
That 2017 number for DDG is absolutely insane.
Just realized that Mike Dean will be the referee tomorrow. Swell...
DDG is a fantastic keeper but he's no Neuer. Not in any category is he better.
Guardian and 442 both had DDG ranked way ahead of Neuer.
as well as people in everyday life.
Going back to the Hazard penalty, I admit it would have been tough for the ref not to give a penalty there. It was a soft penalty but the contact was so obvious.
But Hazard's antics were just as bad as any simulation. Bellerin made contact with the bottom of his boot, yet his foot comes down, not up, and then he falls to the ground like he's been shot. And then he grabs his shin rather than his foot to top it all off. Players like him and Ander Herrera, among others, consistently pull stuff like this and should be looked at retroactively just as potential simulation is reviewed.
Embellishment isn't the same as simulation.
The only part of this I disagree with is pure shot stopping ability, I think DDG is the best in the world at that. But other than that Neuer is the better goalie all around.
Yes, which is why I said excessive theatrics (embellishment) should be reviewed just as simulation can be reviewed. I've referenced both separately throughout the game.
After Lanzini, I'm exceedingly interested in seeing who gets a ban for conning a penalty.
Anyone honestly think Hazard is held up to the same standard?
What is the purpose of reviewing embellishment?
Isn’t that good news for Tottenham?
Players in every sport embellish plays, fans need to get over it.
I'm not sure that meets the standard for a ban, but I don't know. Never seen a penalty like that where I really have no idea if the official should have called it or not.
Wow, is Arsenal and his critics really killing Wenger on the inside? Seems that is really strange thing to say from a person of his character.
Conning a referee, is conning a referee. They should absolutely review it.
Anyone that's watching can spot over the top when they see it. Not every embellishment qualifies.
Hazard isn't getting banned.
It was a foul and therefore not deception of the referee, It doesn't matter if it's soft or not, the ban is only for literal diving.
Ask any Tottenham supporter and they would say no. Both times he had our games this season he was awful. Not that we deserved points in the NLD anyway, but he robbed us of two points against Swansea.
It's a lot less clear cut than diving though. Looking for no contact at all is a lot simpler than trying to quantify how much pain someone should feel, or how they should react to, being fouled.
I think he embellished the hell out of it but he could clearly point to the tape, show where he was fouled, and then make up whatever bullshit he wanted to justify how he reacted. Plus, in other sports we've seen that officials constantly struggle with properly handling judgement calls, even after the fact...
Personally I think it was ridiculous but it is what it is, there's not really anything to review, calls like that get made. The "handball" penalty last game was worse I'd say, but at least now Arsenal can also start tallying how many points they've been screwed out of by the refs
Arnautovic not in the squad to be "rested" (tweaked a hamstring in training) and a bunch of kids on the bench (plus Ayew & Carroll).
This could get ugly today against Tottenham. Zero attacking ability in the starting lineup aside from Lanzini and Chicharito.
Hazard's penalty might technically be a penalty according to the rule book, but giving penalties out like the one Taylor did is why players will dive and will continue to dive. Will embellish and will continue to embellish.
America had anti-African American rules in the 1950s and 1960s, doesn't mean those rules are right. Neither is the little contact Bellerin had on Hazard's boot. We've all seen more contact in box which wasn't given a penalty, pretty much every corner kick with the amount of chequing and shirt pulling being conducted in the box. That is why this should be considered a disgraceful and horrible call.