Proposal: PK Subban to Toronto

[yababy]

Nope. Won't be traded, dumb to even speculate tbh.

I guess math is not your best subject

 

[Morgs]

I guess math is not your best subject

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

Subban, again, is not the type of RHD Toronto is looking for.

I mean he is the type Toronto is looking for unless you are referring to his age/contract. Dubas stated that they would be looking to add guys that can move the puck, not defensive dmen that everyone seems to think it what is need.

 

[yababy]

I'll tutor you...

Tavares 11m
Matthews 11.5m
Nylander 6.9m
Marner 10m (?)
- that's half your payroll on 4 players.
I assume Nylander is the weak link here, but if you think one of the others are going first I'd be interested to hear your rationale

 

[Morgs]

I mean he is the type Toronto is looking for unless you are referring to his age/contract. Dubas stated that they would be looking to add guys that can move the puck, not defensive dmen that everyone seems to think it what is need.

Yeah I could see us going after Subban if actually available, but we don't have the cap space next season unless we can find a way to dump both Marleau + Zaitsev.

And I doubt Nashville goes for a package headlined by Kapanen/Johnsson. Just too many things that are in the way of a defenseman like Subban coming to the Leafs.

 

[Morgs]

I'll tutor you...

Tavares 11m
Matthews 11.5m
Nylander 6.9m
Marner 10m (?)
- that's half your payroll on 4 players.
I assume Nylander is the weak link here, but if you think one of the others are going first is be interested to hear your rationale

Lol our cap situation is fine barring any major adds, thanks for worrying about it though.

 

[Feniggles]

Lol our cap situation is fine barring any major adds, thanks for worrying about it though.

i think i'm reading cap friendly wrong, something doesn't make sense. How are they fine?

 

[Morgs]

i think i'm reading cap friendly wrong, something doesn't make sense. How are they fine?

Horton LTIR isnt taken into account.

 

[broc]

Zaitsev (cap offset)
Brown (cap offset)
1st in 2020
1st in 2021
2nd in 2022
prospect or two not named Sandin or Liljegren.

Nashville takes on some offsetting salary and get a bunch of assets in return.

So the equivalent of 3 firsts, a 2nd, Brown and admittedly a cap dump? PK subban is 30 and definitely not worth his 9 mil hit. And he ain’t worth 3 1sts and a 2nd either, lol.

 

[ImNeverWrong]

nylander is such a floating cream puff, don't know the love affair with that kid. he cares more about his hair than going to the dirty areas. pure diva. not a playoff guy.

 

[axlrose87]

nylander is such a floating cream puff, don't know the love affair with that kid. he cares more about his hair than going to the dirty areas. pure diva. not a playoff guy.

I thought he looked fantastic last night. Won nearly every puck battle and played most of the game in bostons end.
He has looked great since moving to center. His line mates (Marleau and brow) however.....

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

So the equivalent of 3 firsts, a 2nd, Brown and admittedly a cap dump? PK subban is 30 and definitely not worth his 9 mil hit. And he ain’t worth 3 1sts and a 2nd either, lol.

No, it's 2 1sts and a 2nd.

Adding Brown and Zaitsev only drops Nashvilles cap by about $2.5M per season and so they're giving up a top pair right shot (on most teams), and paying really expensive depth players just to give Fabbro a top 4 spot, I'd say 2 1sts, a 2nd and a couple prospects would be fair for Nash.

if the cap wasn't involved maybe just the 2 1sts.

 

[firstemperor]

Not a huge fan of Subban. More novelty than substance. We don't really need that type of polarity in our back-end. We really need to be targeting more cost-efficient, defensively adept d-men.

Would prefer Ellis, but not sure we could work something out with the Preds. Don't think we are good trade partners.

Also I'd rather keep Nylander. His value is clearly not at his highest, yet I'm still as high on him as I've ever been. We are seeing how much more effective he is up the middle of the ice, with more responsibility and space....something I've been chiming for a while..as soon as he moves permanently to middle of the ice and continues to get comfortable, his value will only continue to increase. I put this at +/- ~1.5 years....but it's fast-tracking quicker then expected.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Subban is a declining asset.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I'd be happy with a Lucic for Subban swap. We need to get rid of him, Ellis, Turris and our coaching staff ASAP.

Lucic for Subban? Um, ok.

 

[simon IC]

As a neutral observer, I think Subban would be perfect for Toronto. He would flourish in Toronto's "run and gun" offensive style. The Toronto media would also adore him, and he would bask in the attention. He is also a big city guy. I think he would love Toronto.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

A Muzzin-Subban pairing would be sick.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Nylander is definitely available. I don’t think Dubas will be shopping this summer, but he is by no means untouchable. Especially if the right dman is coming back.

I think the guy that's more available is Kadri.

 

[dubplatepressure]

So; a liability, a Cap Dump, and a Late 1st. Somehow I doubt Nashville is interested.

Kadri is not just a liability. But I agree - value is low.

Zaitsev is having a very good post season though alongside Muzzin and Sandin and Liljejren are both looking very good for the Marlies. To be honest I don't think we would entertain a Subban trade unless Zaitsev went the other way.

 

[trick9]

Do you want to trade Matthews, Rielly or Marner?

I'm not sure that's a good idea.

 

[slg1963]

Nylander has been invisible in the playoffs so far .He is too soft , plays the perimeter all the time and has no grit to his game . I would take Subban any day of the week over Nylander .

 

[dubplatepressure]

Nylander has been invisible in the playoffs so far .He is too soft , plays the perimeter all the time and has no grit to his game . I would take Subban any day of the week over Nylander .

He certainly has not.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Zero interest in Subban.

 

[Baksfamous112]

For Subban he might be, I wouldn't necessarily like it because of the age difference but Subban would solve A LOT

I don’t think he does.

A top pairing defensive D with good offence would solve a lot. Subban is very high risk. Definitely wouldn’t do it for Nylander. Not interested at all knowing he carries a 9 mill price tag. I was a fan of his before. Not really anymore

Exactly this.

Zaitsev (cap offset)
Brown (cap offset)
1st in 2020
1st in 2021
2nd in 2022
prospect or two not named Sandin or Liljegren.

Nashville takes on some offsetting salary and get a bunch of assets in return.

I don’t think Nash is interested in picks and cap dump.

 

[justafan22]

As a neutral observer, I think Subban would be perfect for Toronto. He would flourish in Toronto's "run and gun" offensive style. The Toronto media would also adore him, and he would bask in the attention. He is also a big city guy. I think he would love Toronto.

Yeah, 2 years ago he would've been great.

They can't afford him with Marleau/Zaitsev making 10.75 million next year.