Proposal: PK Subban to the Leafs

[HabsInsider]

It's no secret that the Leafs are looking to upgrade their Defense. In particular, they need a RHD. Would the Leafs be interested in acquiring PK, and what would it cost them? My base proposal:

To Nashville: Garret Sparks OR Calvin Pickard, Jake Gardiner, Kasperi Kapanen, Sandin OR Dermott, 1st Round pick, moist towelette
To Toronto: PK Subban

My reasoning:

Nashville is deep on Defense and could expend someone in order to improve the team elsewhere. The Leafs need to move a goalie and Nashville could use another strong goaltending prospect to support Rinne.

Jake Gardiner can nearly fill the shoes of PK albeit at a lower cap hit (UFA next year). Kapanen and a prospect can give Nashville even more skill up front.

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I'm open to your ideas and modifications. Just trying to gauge what a fair proposal would be.

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[Heldig]

Not sure if serious

 

[Hostile Offer]

"I want one of your best players. Here, take a bunch of stuff I don't need."

 

[Sherwood71]

This is awful for Nashville. Toronto would be getting a top defenseman in the league for a bunch of good, not great pieces. Also, Nashville is very high on Saros. Not really sure they need either goaltender offered. Did you realistically look at this from Nashville's POV?

 

[Sureves]

That’s not even kinda close.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Montreal trading Subban is a mistake that I doubt Nashville wants to repeat

 

[BB88]

If you want to get worse this is how you do it.

 

[crowi]

bunch of shit for a top pairing d-man.

 

[Rangers ftw]

If Jake Gardiner “nearly can fill the shoes of Subban”, why don’t you just keep him instead?

 

[HabsInsider]

"I want one of your best players. Here, take a bunch of stuff I don't need."

Yea, this is a quality for quantity type of proposal. It is what it is.

 

[Rangers ftw]

Delete

 

[HabsInsider]

"I want one of your best players. Here, take a bunch of stuff I don't need."

Yea, this is a quality for quantity type of proposal. It is what it is.

If Jake Gardiner “nearly can fill the shoes of Subban”, why don’t you just keep him instead?

I just mean he could fill that spot and play a similar style. Offensive Dman.

 

[34]

bunch of **** for a top pairing d-man.

Kapanen and Gardiner are not ****. Both a quality players.

But yeah, no way they get you Subban.

 

[crowi]

Kapanen and Gardiner are not ****. Both a quality players.

But yeah, no way they get you Subban.

Exactly, in this context they are shit.

 

[BB88]

Kapanen and Gardiner are not ****. Both a quality players.

But yeah, no way they get you Subban.

Kapanen isn't a quality asset in star player trade proposals.

 

[shortfuze]

Montreal trading Subban is a mistake that I doubt Nashville wants to repeat

never mind. Read that wrong.

 

[FerrisRox]

Jake Gardiner can nearly fill the shoes of PK albeit at a lower cap hit (UFA next year).

 

[HabsInsider]

This is awful for Nashville. Toronto would be getting a top defenseman in the league for a bunch of good, not great pieces. Also, Nashville is very high on Saros. Not really sure they need either goaltender offered. Did you realistically look at this from Nashville's POV?

As great as Rinne is, he is 35 and also needs to be re-signed. If somehow he isn't back after next year, Sparks or Pickard would be some insurance. I would understand if Nashville wasn't interested in my proposal, which is why I asked others to figure out something fair.

 

[FerrisRox]

Jake Gardiner can nearly fill the shoes of PK albeit at a lower cap hit (UFA next year).

 

[FerrisRox]

As great as Rinne is, he is 35 and also needs to be re-signed. If somehow he isn't back after next year, Sparks or Pickard would be some insurance.

Come on, is this all some kind of joke?

So they replace Subban with Gardiner and Rinne with Sparks.

Perfect.

 

[shortfuze]

Montreal trading Subban is a mistake that I doubt Nashville wants to repeat

Delete

 

[Kcoyote3]

1st: This is essentially Leivo, Carrick, 2nd but with some minor upgrades.
2nd: Kasperi Kapanen is not the centerpiece of any trade with any franchise player. He already played that role once 3 years ago, and since then he has 10 NHL points.

 

[Thrasymachus]

What

was the first mistake?

Montreal trading Subban was a mistake. Nashville trading Subban would also be a mistake. He is the kind of player you build around

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

Lol, if Liljegren, Sandin, or Dermott aren’t even in this I can’t take it seriously. That’s a horrible return for Subban, literately nothing in that deal compares to what he brings to Nashville, both on and off the ice.

 

[HabsInsider]

Come on, is this all some kind of joke?

So they replace Subban with Gardiner and Rinne with Sparks.

Perfect.

Nashville benefits by receiving a first round pick and a high end prospect. Then, they get a capable goaltender as insurance. That goalie can back up Saros for all I care, or whoever replaces Rinne when/if he leaves. But Sparks and Pickard will both be NHL goaltenders someday.

Jake is just there to give Nashville a decent Dman in return, since they lost PK. He plays a similar style but is in no way better than PK. Relax.

Nashville also get a skilled forward in Kapanen.

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

ignore lol double post

 

[HabsInsider]

Come on, is this all some kind of joke?

So they replace Subban with Gardiner and Rinne with Sparks.

Perfect.

Nashville benefits by receiving a first round pick and a high end prospect. Then, they get a capable goaltender as insurance. That goalie can back up Saros for all I care, or whoever replaces Rinne when/if he leaves. But Sparks and Pickard will both be NHL goaltenders someday.

Jake is just there to give Nashville a decent Dman in return, since they lost PK. He plays a similar style but is in no way better than PK. Relax.

Nashville also get a skilled forward in Kapanen.

 

[firstemperor]

Pretty awful quantity for quality trade for Nash.

 

[firstemperor]

delete

 

[shortfuze]

Montreal trading Subban was a mistake. Nashville trading Subban would also be a mistake. He is the kind of player you build around

THanks. I read it wrong originally.

 

[FerrisRox]

Nashville benefits by receiving a first round pick and a high end prospect. Then, they get a capable goaltender as insurance. That goalie can back up Saros for all I care, or whoever replaces Rinne when/if he leaves. But Sparks and Pickard will both be NHL goaltenders someday.

Jake is just there to give Nashville a decent Dman in return, since they lost PK. He plays a similar style but is in no way better than PK. Relax.

Nashville also get a skilled forward in Kapanen and a potential bottom 6er in Leivo.

Who's the quality prospect?

Dude, this is horrible. Like, really, really bad. It's laughable. Sparks and Pickard are waiver fodder, they aren't pieces in a super star trade. You can't be serious with this.

Gardiner is a defensive liability and one year away from UFA status. You think he's going to be a major piece in a blockbuster trade?

This trade is clueless, the fact that you are defending it is mind boggling. People joke about EA Sports level deals... I don't even think this would go through there.

 

[sansabri]

Moist towelette indeed.

 

[shortfuze]

Nashville benefits by receiving a first round pick and a high end prospect. Then, they get a capable goaltender as insurance. That goalie can back up Saros for all I care, or whoever replaces Rinne when/if he leaves. But Sparks and Pickard will both be NHL goaltenders someday.

Jake is just there to give Nashville a decent Dman in return, since they lost PK. He plays a similar style but is in no way better than PK. Relax.

Nashville also get a skilled forward in Kapanen.

It’s all still awful for nashville.

 

[HabsInsider]

Lol, if Liljegren, Sandin, or Dermott aren’t even in this I can’t take it seriously. That’s a horrible return for Subban, literately nothing in that deal compares to what he brings to Nashville, both on and off the ice.

I would be okay with Sandin or Dermott substituted for the prospect, or added on if necessary.

 

[Joel Ward]

I would think PK would cost Nylander (+?). Otherwise no incentive for Nashville.

 

[VasilyHoglander]

Nashville would ask for Marner