Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap: Time is Relevant and Empty Arenas are Wormholes
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WayneSid9987
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Yohe said theres a good chance Sheary re-signs and he'd be surprised if Schultz stays.
Nothing really but something to start the thread off.
Nothing really but something to start the thread off.
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When i tried a flat cap with Arm-Chair GM, you can get it to work but 1 of 2 things needs to happen.
Either Bjugs and JJ are gone with their cap hits OR one of 'em is gone with Murr or Jarry dealt.
I'm thinkin' a plausible scenario is they buy out Bjugs or deal him and a goalie will be dealt, pretty likely to COL.
Just those 2 things gives JR alot of breathing room cap wise even if it's the more expensive Murray who he keeps, he has the room.
Example 23-man roster:
Zucker-Sid-Sheary(1M)
Jake-G-Rust
Simon(1M)-McCann(2.4M)-Horny
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
ERod(1.2M)
Lafferty(800k)
Dumo-Letang
MP-Marino
JJ-Ruh
Riiko(850k)
Murray(5.6M)
DeSmith
Cap Limit = 81.5M
Cap Space = 2.599825M
Was probably a little off on some of the pay raises so lets call the cap space between 1 to 2.5M.
Thats with keeping the more expensive Murr and still having JJ on the team, mind.
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At least this was one of the years wasted on him. Nobody can win the Cup. That's a good year to have JJ on the team because he sure as f*** wasn't going to help.
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I hope right before the season resumes he gets quarantined for 14 days and then again.
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Also Ruh And JJ over Riikola is f***ing bollocks mate. Absolute bollocks.
Speaking of Riikola, Yohe made it sound like there's a good chance he'll be traded too, which I'm looking forwards to as a source of entertaining rage if nothing else.
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Good for everyone really. If we can turn a depth dman we got for free into a 4th or 5th, that'd be a win. A small win, but one nevertheless.
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Here’s an interesting discussion of the Murray Jarry debate....
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Empoleon8771
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The Penguins should keep Sheary and trade Riikola, I have no problems with that. Compliance buyout Bjugstad, spend like $2-$2.5 million on Sheary and make McCann your 3C and your 3rd line is well set for next year.
You still need to get a better RWer for Crosby, though. I thought Sheary did well with Crosby this year, but it's much more ideal for Sheary to be on the 3rd line with McCann and Hornqvist when healthy. I think that will be very difficult to do with a stagnant cap, though. You may have to pick between Simon and Sheary for Crosby's RW just because the cap won't allow you to do more.
No he shouldn't because he's not very good.
DeMelo is way better than Riikola is and he only brought back a 3rd at the deadline this year. Riikola's nothing more than a 6th/7th D that people here obsess over because he skates well and has a hard shot.
You still need to get a better RWer for Crosby, though. I thought Sheary did well with Crosby this year, but it's much more ideal for Sheary to be on the 3rd line with McCann and Hornqvist when healthy. I think that will be very difficult to do with a stagnant cap, though. You may have to pick between Simon and Sheary for Crosby's RW just because the cap won't allow you to do more.
No he shouldn't because he's not very good.
DeMelo is way better than Riikola is and he only brought back a 3rd at the deadline this year. Riikola's nothing more than a 6th/7th D that people here obsess over because he skates well and has a hard shot.
I’m counting on Poulin...I don’t think we’ll be able to afford someone in FA but if we could get a reasonable one year deal, given the pandemic, for someone like Dadanov I hope the team goes for that rather than re-signing Sheary, even if costs a little more...
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There is absolutely no way that the Penguins could afford Dadonov. There are teams that are swimming in cap space that will offer up expensive 1 year deals and then will trade these guys at the deadline as rentals. The Penguins are absolutely not going to be able to get someone like that, because someone like New Jersey or Ottawa will be able to offer double what the Penguins can offer.
Poulin is definitely a possibility, though. I wouldn't mind giving him a 9 game trial with Zucker/Guentzel and Crosby to see how well he meshes there. I would still definitely re-sign Sheary though, there's not a good reason not to re-sign him. Cheap skilled depth is always useful to have, especially considering that his salary will be more than compensated by Bjugstad's buyout.
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My lineup prediction for next year is something like:
Guentzel-Crosby-Simon/Poulin
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Sheary-McCann-Hornqvist
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Lafferty-Rodrigues (if you can get him to sign a cheap 1 year deal)
Dumoulin-Letang
Pettersson-Marino
Johnson-Ruhwedel
Trotman
Murray-Jarry
The money works out if you give short deals to McCann, Murray and Jarry at less money than they'd get on long term deals. So basically no major changes outside of making Ruhwedel your full-time #6 (which would probably require a trade deadline acquisition, but that's alright), trading Riikola and DeSmith for draft picks and maybe Poulin pushing for a top-6 spot. I think you'd probably see another Trotman caliber defenseman or 2 signed in free agency to shuttle between WBS and Pittsburgh, because you need to be 9 NHL defensemen deep.
Guentzel-Crosby-Simon/Poulin
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Sheary-McCann-Hornqvist
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Lafferty-Rodrigues (if you can get him to sign a cheap 1 year deal)
Dumoulin-Letang
Pettersson-Marino
Johnson-Ruhwedel
Trotman
Murray-Jarry
The money works out if you give short deals to McCann, Murray and Jarry at less money than they'd get on long term deals. So basically no major changes outside of making Ruhwedel your full-time #6 (which would probably require a trade deadline acquisition, but that's alright), trading Riikola and DeSmith for draft picks and maybe Poulin pushing for a top-6 spot. I think you'd probably see another Trotman caliber defenseman or 2 signed in free agency to shuttle between WBS and Pittsburgh, because you need to be 9 NHL defensemen deep.
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[QUOTE="Empoleon8771, post: 171946244, member: 257639"
DeMelo is way better than Riikola is and he only brought back a 3rd at the deadline this year. Riikola's nothing more than a 6th/7th D that people here obsess over because he skates well and has a hard shot.[/QUOTE]
People discuss Rikko because he's not been given much of an opportunity to see who he is. He's in his 2nd year in NA and we still don't know what he projects to or what partner he goes well with
I get he was a free asset but he's been considerably mismanaged here.
DeMelo is way better than Riikola is and he only brought back a 3rd at the deadline this year. Riikola's nothing more than a 6th/7th D that people here obsess over because he skates well and has a hard shot.[/QUOTE]
People discuss Rikko because he's not been given much of an opportunity to see who he is. He's in his 2nd year in NA and we still don't know what he projects to or what partner he goes well with
I get he was a free asset but he's been considerably mismanaged here.
Empoleon8771
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It's also entirely possible that he's just not very good outside of spurts, and just being an interesting asset isn't a good enough justification for playing on a team who is trying to win.
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Wasn't sure but the most you'd probably get is a Jost or Zadorov player wise.
Jost would be easy to fit in. Zads would be a little tougher but still doable.
I really don't see this team keeping both goaltenders.
And Hallander has a good shot at stealing a spot. Probably moreso than Sammy.
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The problem with Ruhwedel as 6D is the heavy wet smelly sensation in the pants the moment an injury comes and he's 4D. I'm not a fan of that and am happy to sacrifice depth elsewhere to change it.
I also think guessing what happens next for contracts is really difficult. If a player is a gambler, he takes a 1 year and cashes in the next year. If he's not, if he's wondering if things can get worse for the NHL in a recession or if he's at an age where 1 bad year can lead to no last big contract at all, maybe they take term now and shrug off the loss. Seems a time for gamblers but NHL players trend conservative. Dadonov's kinda in that position since he's up as an example; he takes a 1 year, he gets injured and underperforms, next contract is at 32 off a bad year and where does that go? Youngster like Jarry or McCann who's not made real money yet might be reluctant to turn down their first long "set for life" pay cheque either; if it is a little low, they're young enough to make it up on the next one. Real hard to call. Arguments both ways.
Also I thought NHL insiders like LeBrun were still forecasting that the NHL and NHLPA would want to avoid the salary cap going down and compliance buyouts, and would override the CBA to ensure that happened?
I also think guessing what happens next for contracts is really difficult. If a player is a gambler, he takes a 1 year and cashes in the next year. If he's not, if he's wondering if things can get worse for the NHL in a recession or if he's at an age where 1 bad year can lead to no last big contract at all, maybe they take term now and shrug off the loss. Seems a time for gamblers but NHL players trend conservative. Dadonov's kinda in that position since he's up as an example; he takes a 1 year, he gets injured and underperforms, next contract is at 32 off a bad year and where does that go? Youngster like Jarry or McCann who's not made real money yet might be reluctant to turn down their first long "set for life" pay cheque either; if it is a little low, they're young enough to make it up on the next one. Real hard to call. Arguments both ways.
Also I thought NHL insiders like LeBrun were still forecasting that the NHL and NHLPA would want to avoid the salary cap going down and compliance buyouts, and would override the CBA to ensure that happened?
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