Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: Where we talk about former posters

[66-30-33]

So. Taylor Hall time now?

Sure, at 50% retention.

 

[T1K]

Trading Poulin to fill in for Zucker would be a massive mistake

 

[Ryder71]

Geno looked engaged tonight. Hopefully he can build off tonight and go beast mode. Let's hope so.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

my point was the question was stupid. I was responding to someone who said I didn’t get it. I did and it was trash.

nah
You didnt get it.

the comparison is older star that is nearing a point where a decision has to be made on how much their past success writes their future near the end.

he used malkin because Malkin is:

Older
Closer to the end of his contract
Is at the point of diminishing returns when looking forward.

Your just butt hurt about a conspiracy theory you created in your own mind.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

He didn't play with them for 55 games. It would have be approximately 15 games.

The most successful time for Malkin last year, regardless.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Gourde had those seasons at wing. Also, I’m confused what Gourde and McCann have to do with Cirelli and Bleuger.

You're under the impression that McCann is some sort of lock to be a quality 3rd line center, when the last time we had him there it was our worst line in the playoffs, in large part because McCann is not a puck distributor at all.

The truth is that if Blueger moves up to 2C, our entire bottom 6 looks as rickety as our 4th does right now.

 

[Turin]

Trading Poulin to fill in for Zucker would be a massive mistake

Most likely yea. Play that makes more sense is putting McCann there and eventually get a 4th line guy.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

If Zucker is long term, perhaps we keep a close eye on the waiver wire to replace him in the lineup

 

[Gurglesons]

You're under the impression that McCann is some sort of lock to be a quality 3rd line center, when the last time we had him there it was our worst line in the playoffs, in large part because McCann is not a puck distributor at all.

The truth is that if Blueger moves up to 2C, our entire bottom 6 looks as rickety as our 4th does right now.

By every metric for the last three years McCann has been a 3C. If you want to use metrics to defend certain players and then doubt them on others that’s your deal.

 

[MayorofWBS]

So...Arvidsson anyone? Zucker is probably done.

With what resources?

So. Taylor Hall time now?

With what resources?

Who is the best LW’er we could get to replace Zucker (assuming he is out long term) for Dumo or Petts?

Sure, lets piss away even more resources for another crappy temp fix

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

You're not getting anything substantial without trading a piece that helps you win now. We have no picks or prospects worth a damn, and we have no position of strength to deal from.

You'd just better hope someone like McCann finds a groove in a top-6 role if Zucker's done for a while.

 

[LRS87]

Jake-Sid-Kap
ZAR-Geno-Rust
McCann-Bluegar-Tanev
Lafferty-Jank-Sceviour

For the time being.

 

[ChaosAgent]

ZAR or McCann will be fine with Geno & Rust.

Zucker is a better offensive player than either but Geno knows what he's getting with those guys and can play accordingly.

ZAR especially would help Malkin in transition defense and in the defensive zone. If we get the Malkin and Rust we saw tonight, ZAR-Malkin-Rust will be an excellent L2. Don't overthink it.

Edit: the performances of the LD tonight certainly gives me pause on "deal from a position of strength at LD." Petts is meh but at least you know what you're going to get. Riikola same thing but at a slightly lower level. POJ, Math, Dumo these days? Who knows.

 

[mpp9]

You're not getting anything substantial without trading a piece that helps you win now. We have no picks or prospects worth a damn, and we have no position of strength to deal from.

You'd just better hope someone like McCann finds a groove in a top-6 role if Zucker's done for a while.

I mean, we have a ton of LD. I'd be down moving one of them. If the team is a bit worried about POJ being healthy scratch material, maybe you hold onto Dumoulin and see what you can get for Petts.

Maatta brought back Kahun, I'd imagine we could get a decent middle six winger for Petts to tread water. This team can't afford to miss the playoffs so something is gonna have to be done if Zucker is out longterm.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

If Zucker is long term, perhaps we keep a close eye on the waiver wire to replace him in the lineup

Zack Boychuk part 2.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I mean, we have a ton of LD. I'd be down moving one of them. If the team is a bit worried about POJ being healthy scratch material, maybe you hold onto Dumoulin and see what you can get for Petts.

Maatta brought back Kahun, I'd imagine we could get a decent middle six winger for Petts to tread water. This team can't afford to miss the playoffs so something is gonna have to be done if Zucker is out longterm.

Dumo's looked like shit for a while now. Either suffering from injury, dealing with said injury, or recovering from injury. We could move this version of Dumo and not even miss a beat, imo. I say this as someone who isn't really a fan of Petts at all. If you're dealing one or the other, deal Dumo. Not that I think either brings back a good return, but y'know.

 

[Andy99]

I mean, we have a ton of LD. I'd be down moving one of them. If the team is a bit worried about POJ being healthy scratch material, maybe you hold onto Dumoulin and see what you can get for Petts.

Maatta brought back Kahun, I'd imagine we could get a decent middle six winger for Petts to tread water. This team can't afford to miss the playoffs so something is gonna have to be done if Zucker is out longterm.

Buffalo is desperate for a LD especially with McCabe now out longerm...Petts for Olofsson is a decent swap...two young players both signed for a few years or under team control...

 

[Darren McCord]

nah
You didnt get it.

the comparison is older star that is nearing a point where a decision has to be made on how much their past success writes their future near the end.

he used malkin because Malkin is:

Older
Closer to the end of his contract
Is at the point of diminishing returns when looking forward.

Your just butt hurt about a conspiracy theory you created in your own mind.

Nah it’s trash. But whatever. It’s the same garbage like dreger making stupid Crosby rumors.

If Malkin starts off better these question aren’t even asked. Ben is done while Malkin still has 2-4 years left. Putting them together makes no sense. You can ask the question but don’t mash those two together. Not similar circumstances.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

From reading a couple posts in the Around the NHL thread, Jack Eichel is done in Buffalo.

Pens offer Dumo, 1st in 2022 1st in 2023, Poulin and Rust.

Move Eichel to 2c and Malkin to his wing and Zucker to L1 left wing

 

[mpp9]

Buffalo is desperate for a LD especially with McCabe now out longerm...Petts for Olofsson is a decent swap...two young players both signed for a few years or under team control...

Dude's put up 60 pts in 76 games in the NHL thus far. Don't think Petts gets that done.

 

[66-30-33]

From reading a couple posts in the Around the NHL thread, Jack Eichel is done in Buffalo.

Pens offer Dumo, 1st in 2022 1st in 2023, Poulin and Rust.

Move Eichel to 2c and Malkin to his wing and Zucker to L1 left wing

Sabres hang up laughing.

 

[TySmith4Norris]

You're not getting anything substantial without trading a piece that helps you win now. We have no picks or prospects worth a damn, and we have no position of strength to deal from.

You'd just better hope someone like McCann finds a groove in a top-6 role if Zucker's done for a while.

Disagree with this

LD is a clear position of strength and a guy like Pettersson or Dumoulin should be able to easily swing the 2nd/3rd line talent they would be looking for

But I also they think they would play POJ over Pettersson, not sure everyone would agree with that

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Sabres hang up laughing.

Probably, butt f*** em . They'll not be competitive until god knows when

 

[66-30-33]

Probably, butt f*** em . They'll not be competitive until god knows when

Pens will be competitive on our rebuild after Crosby/Malkin retire before they are.

 

[DRAGO 18]

Oloffson is terrible at ES but is a monster on the PP. He likely doesnt even get to play on our top PP which is his biggest strength