Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: Where we talk about former posters

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  1. Malkinstheman Registered User

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    As far as im concerned Geno is in the same category as Sid. Both of them should decide whether they want to stay or leave. It sucks that Geno always been the sacrificial lamb anytime the team faulters. I really hope both of them play their entire career with the Pens.
     
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    Especially if it’s just conditioning issues that will sort itself out eventually.
     
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    well the first thing is that it would relive him of some defensive responsibility in our zone.
    2. giving him less ice to cover
    3. it would take nothing away in the offensive zone.
    seems like all good things to me.
    edit; it would push some down on the left side, is that a bad thing?
     
  4. LiffLaff Crazy? Me?

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    Well, would you trade a good sized RW powerforward with speed and 50 point upside for a defensive D with limited offence and who's weak on the boards? If it wasn't for the bad start, and questions about his work ethic, no way Van trades Virtanen. Im not saying it's a great deal, but I wouldn't feel like we were fleeced either.
     
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    Probably not for Pettersson until I see more of Petts and Dumo. I think I would maybe do something around that for Dumo but more balancing pieces thrown in. That said, Vancouver needs to cut salary and this does the opposite, so my guess would be no from them unless it was a three way with another team.
     
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    But we also need to be proactive in finding a solution.

    If Crosby were struggling, the Pens would be moving heaven and earth to set things right.
     
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    I mean. I think it’s garbage to trash him as it’s pretty clear he’s just struggling with some decline in his game.

    But if he’s gonna continue to regress, I’m not gonna say we can’t find another way to build the team and be just as good if not better.

    Ideally, he takes a team friendly deal, he remains a strong player and we build a strong team around him.
     
  10. EightyOne My posts are jokes. And hockey is just a game.

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    Well goaltending and the bottom six are good again, so everyone goes back to the default Geno doesn't do enough lol
     
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    I don't think they should cut bait with Malkin, but whether I want to re-sign Malkin heavily depends on what he's asking for. I'd want him to be taking a pay cut on his next deal, and I'd want it to be even more sizable if he's not what he once was. The only way they should move on from Malkin is if he wants out or if he's not willing to work with their salary structure.

    I hope it won't be a problem, but I also thought Ovi was going to be willing to take a pay cut and he apparently wants a raise on an extension with the Capitals.
     
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    Sadly, I think the difference is, Ovechkin is still putting up big goal totals. Couple of years ago, I would have fought tooth and nail suggesting Ovie and Malkin had similar value but today, I think Ovie is clearly worth more. That doesn't mean Geno is not worth anything but as you suggested, I think I would be wanting a pay cut from the $9.5mil. I struggle even accepting another $9,5mil deal. I could see dropping to $8.7mil but more preferably, $7.1mil (lol) as I think that allows us the flexibility we need while providing good value for both parties. If Malkin could take two $3mil wingers and be a PPG player and a force on the PP, that's one thing but it's increasingly obvious that he is going to be needing more help from more capable players. That's not something we should be paying a premium for IMHO. That said, I want the guy around.

    I still think the best overall route would be to keep him at center now and next year then when his contract is renewed to match Sid's term, bump him to Sid's RW and look for a new 2C (that can start now if need be).

    Jake-Sid-Geno
    Zucker-2C-Kappy
     
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    Bleuger and McCann have both been okay in a 2C role, I'd simply move one of them up to Malkin's line and the other at 3C and use Malkin on the wing until he gets his head out of his ass.
     
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    Malkin is looking like his years are starting to take some toll. Nothing bad except he is not going to be that 10 million dollar player and quite frankly I have no idea what he may be then. I am in the move on camp to allow Hextall do what he was hired to do. Rebuild the roster to win cups down the road. Sid is unique as he loves to play and I think just playing is his great satisfaction. He wants to win, but playing at a high level is his motivation.
     
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    It’s out of the box but I like it.

    I think tinkering with the wings a little to have one last go for a Malkin to get going but if he’d be cool with wing it’s not a bad idea.

    I think Blueger would be good because A) he’s in great form B) goes hard to net which would hopefully encourage Malkin to shoot a lot C) Teddy has history of playing against top lines and coming out even so Malkin and another quality winger could work.

    Sully’s done some weird things (good & bad) I’m not sure he’d go there though. Maybe @Jesse can plant the seed in Sully’s mind :)
     
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    They're minimum salary roster fillers. Of course they're not always seeing the ice. When they go, they'll be filled with more minimum salary roster fillers. Their relevance to Virtanen is basically zero and I don't know why you're suggesting otherwise.

    Given everything we've seen of the psychology of the individual, how's that going to help us?
     
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    McCann+3rd for Bennett+Simon

    Guentzel-Crosby-Simon
    Bennett-Malkin-Rust
    Zucker-ERod-Kapanen
    ZAR-Bluegar-Tanev
     
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    I don't think switching Malkin to wing is going to help his circumstances any.
     
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    Holy ****

    JUST LAST SEASON Malkin scored at a 37 goal, 110 point pace, yet his (admittedly putrid) start through 16 games this season leads many of you to conclude that he's cooked?

    Geno has been a monster for 15+ seasons and you are all ready to write him off after 16 games. I have no words.
     
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    Malkin scored 74 points in 55 games and led the league in 5v5 scoring last season. Three years ago he scored 98 points in 78 games. The year in between he only scored at about a point a game, but the D he spent most time with was Jack Johnson. He is declining, but still excellent—the start of this season not withstanding.

    Let’s turn Petts/Dumo + Prospect + pick into one more winger. Keep KK and Rust. Push down one of them to play with McCann and whoever is playing best out of DOC, EROD, Jank, Sceviour, Lafferty...
     
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    Yes to all of this.
     
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    Malkin has been fine playing wing in the past if he believes it is what is best for the team.
     
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    What is the solution outside of moving Zucker off his line which doesn't seem like a possibility in your opinion? Just let him play out of it and pray?
     
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    I have an idea, lets trade for Sutter and put Geno on his wing, or Jordan and put Geno on his wing...I mean thats what we have been desiring for a long time...what a bunch of BS
     
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