Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: We’ve got forwards! Six of one, half dozen of the other.

[Tom Hanks]

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[EightyOne]

The good ones
On cheap deals

Idiot!!!

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

This is a wild idea, but maybe some forwards just don't want to play here

 

[Tom Hanks]

The good ones
On cheap deals

Idiot!!!

 

[Pens x]

This is a wild idea, but maybe some forwards just don't want to play here

Awww yes, the Shero excuse.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Awww yes, the Shero excuse.

I find it to be a valid possibility. Pitt attracts some FA's, key word SOME. Where as others just might not want to come here, for SOME people that might be tough to wrap ones mind around.

 

[Tom Hanks]

So I thought I should do a non sarcasm post. Let’s forget about signings. Is their any legit trades that people would like to look at?

 

[dogthateats]

July 1st of what year?

 

[Gurglesons]

So I thought I should do a non sarcasm post. Let’s forget about signings. Is their any legit trades that people would like to look at?

@Soggy Biscuit brought up Roslovic. I think there may be a match there. I’m not huge on Roslo, but he’s the kind of player I’d be happy to see us target.

 

[pokey10]

I am here.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Carl Soderberg???

 

[Ugene Magic]

So I thought I should do a non sarcasm post. Let’s forget about signings. Is their any legit trades that people would like to look at?

I was looking through the roster and trying to figure who is the odd man out?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

So I thought I should do a non sarcasm post. Let’s forget about signings. Is their any legit trades that people would like to look at?

I personally would like to make 0 trades and run with what we got. Maybe get a better back up goalie.

That is all I would want.
Still not a fan of McCann playing wing over centre but atleast if he stays wing we aren't changing his position and line mates every game. Now it's just line mates

 

[Night Shift]

Agreed. DeSmith, picks/Prospect for a vet backup

 

[Tom Hanks]

I was looking through the roster and trying to figure who is the odd man out?

Yeah there’s no one of any real value that we should trade. I mean McCann would have the most value out of potential expendables but he’s also one of our best bottom 6 players too.

I’m looking for a smart RW that would be a really good 3rd liner. Internal cap and asset wise things would have to line up pretty well.

 

[Flying Dego]

Yeah there’s no one of any real value that we should trade. I mean McCann would have the most value out of potential expendables but he’s also one of our best bottom 6 players too.

I’m looking for a smart RW that would be a really good 3rd liner. Internal cap and asset wise things would have to line up pretty well.

Drop ZAR for a bag of pucks. Demote Laff or Ruh or both.

Sign Granlund for 2.5M for 1 year

Zucker-Sid-Granlund/Kap
Guentzel-Geno-Rust
McCann-Bleuger-Kap/Granlund
Rod-Jank-Tanev
Scev

 

[Tom Hanks]

Drop ZAR for a bag of pucks. Demote Laff or Ruh or both.

Sign Granlund for 2.5M for 1 year

Zucker-Sid-Granlund/Kap
Guentzel-Geno-Rust
McCann-Bleuger-Kap/Granlund
Rod-Jank-Tanev
Scev

 

[SEALBound]

All of the ones I wanted and none of the ones I didn't want.

Drop ZAR for a bag of pucks. Demote Laff or Ruh or both.

Sign Granlund for 2.5M for 1 year

Zucker-Sid-Granlund/Kap
Guentzel-Geno-Rust
McCann-Bleuger-Kap/Granlund
Rod-Jank-Tanev
Scev

And then when injuries happen, we just run Riikola as the 4th line wing? Maybe bump Matheson up to the third line?

 

[Flying Dego]

And then when injuries happen, we just run Riikola as the 4th line wing? Maybe bump Matheson up to the third line?

You have Scev as an extra. Call up Laff, O'Connor, other young guy when injuries occur...

Are you worried about replacing ZAR with Granlund?

 

[Tom Hanks]

You have Scev as an extra. Call up Laff, O'Connor, other young guy when injuries occur...

Are you worried about replacing ZAR with Granlund?

I didn’t look at the numbers but does it work cap wise if you sign Granlund and send guys down?

For example if an injury is only IR and not LTIR they’re still against the cap. Can you still bring someone up?

 

[Khelandros]

Any of the top 6 free agents available, even before the free agent signing period would have no reason to sign in Pittsburgh for 3rd/4th line minutes because the top 6 has pretty much been set since before free agency. So everyone saying they would sign, that is the reason they would not want to sign in Pittsburgh.

 

[Flying Dego]

I didn’t look at the numbers but does it work cap wise if you sign Granlund and send guys down?

For example if an injury is only IR and not LTIR they’re still against the cap. Can you still bring someone up?

Subtracting ZAR and Laff brings us 3M capspace. Granlund at 2.5 leaves roughly .5M.

I believe LTIR is the only way to go over the limit BUT when do we not have a good player on LTIR? I think we'd have a little wiggle room with call ups.

My plan leaves our roster with 13F 8D. Maybe I need a cap guru to balance me but my idea sounds good to myself.

 

[Flying Dego]

Any of the top 6 free agents available, even before the free agent signing period would have no reason to sign in Pittsburgh for 3rd/4th line minutes because the top 6 has pretty much been set since before free agency. So everyone saying they would sign, that is the reason they would not want to sign in Pittsburgh.

I feel our pitch to Granlund would be tempting. He has familiarity with Zucker (last time he was a 60 point fwd) and he could pair with one of our top centers. I think our roster gives him the best chance to maximize his value.

 

[SEALBound]

You have Scev as an extra. Call up Laff, O'Connor, other young guy when injuries occur...

Are you worried about replacing ZAR with Granlund?

No, my worry would be cap. The only time you get relief on a cap hit is when they go on LTIR. If someone is just day-to-day, you need the cap space to be able to call someone up - Laff, OC, etc. Yes, Sceviour would be there for one injury, but what about the next injury? Pretty regular that we have a couple guys go down. Remember in 2015 when the cap space was botched a bit and we had to run 11 forwards or 5 dmen because we didn't have the space to call anyone up? Riding out the remainder of the RS in a playoff spot is one thing, positioning yourself in that corner to start the season...not a great idea.

I think the dreams of a guy like Granlund or even Haula went out the door with the signing of Ceci...and possibly ERod. If they were willing to spend money there, it's likely they weren't giving it to either of the guys I mentioned. And who knows, maybe JR did reach out and they turned down the chance to play here. Just because we don't sign them doesn't mean there weren't discussions going on. Kinda like trade rumors - just because it didn't come to fruition doesn't mean it wasn't discussed.

 

[SEALBound]

Subtracting ZAR and Laff brings us 3M capspace. Granlund at 2.5 leaves roughly .5M.

I believe LTIR is the only way to go over the limit BUT when do we not have a good player on LTIR? I think we'd have a little wiggle room with call ups.

My plan leaves our roster with 13F 8D. Maybe I need a cap guru to balance me but my idea sounds good to myself.

And that's where I'm out. Half a mil isn't enough "wiggle room" when you're likely call ups are all $700k and above.

And clarify, who is taking ZAR for $1mil if Granlund is available for $2.5mil?