Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: Mathensum

[JimmyTwoTimes]

That’s not really up to the Pens though. Income for teams will be down, he still has 3 years, he’s not very good and how good are our sweeteners really to take him on.

Would you take on JJ for an extra 2nd round pick or any of our “moveable” prospects? Term is the killer.

JR is going to have to call in a favour or “owe” someone to move JJ.

Wings and Sens are the teams that could do that. Thats why I am wondering what we would have to give up. Would it have to be Legare? Im assuming it wouldnt have to be Poulin or POJ level.

I am also guessing JR wants his 3rd this year since we have no 1st or 2nd. 3rd is usually our magic round anyway.

Maybe a combo of two prospects. Or a 4th and a prospect

 

[Speaking Moistly]

That’s not really up to the Pens though. Income for teams will be down, he still has 3 years, he’s not very good and how good are our sweeteners really to take him on.

Would you take on JJ for an extra 2nd round pick or any of our “moveable” prospects? Term is the killer.

JR is going to have to call in a favour or “owe” someone to move JJ.

Or just buy him the f*** out and apologize to ownership for ever doing this. That’s entirely in their control and saves money.


They can also ice a full roster if Simon doesn’t break the bank and he shouldn’t. It’s just not going to be a great bottom 6 but they can ice a full team while still carrying JJ. Quality would force them to move him but the cap doesn’t.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Right now the Pens are sitting at about 78.6m total caphit but the actual salary is only 71.5m. So there shouldnt be any problem spending to the cap now. The last couple deals have saved quite a bit in real money for next season.

 

[Tom Hanks]

 

[Malkinstheman]

Huh, I thought the league confirmed that 2021 was when the season would start.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Lol, nobody knows!

 

[Tom Hanks]

Huh, I thought the league confirmed that 2021 was when the season would start.

Still need a pre season.

 

[Factorial]

I remember that story ...Geno has been traded at least 10 times over the years to LA, Chicago and Florida it’s hard to keep track lol

Geno for Kopitar. E5.

 

[Riptide]

Hmmm. I’m listening.

Right?

 

[Riptide]

Well, because Murray is better and younger than Crawford? That would be my guess-- the Hawks would acquire a better longterm asset for roughly the same price or slightly more expensive. That's a pretty good trade off, I think.

Doesn't change the fact that they don't have the money. They have ~8m in cap and need to sign Kabulik and Strome and a goalie. And then still decide what is happening with Seabrook (who as someone on LTIR) isn't currently counting against those cap numbers (thanks CF).

 

[Gurglesons]

Doesn't change the fact that they don't have the money. They have ~8m in cap and need to sign Kabulik and Strome and a goalie. And then still decide what is happening with Seabrook (who as someone on LTIR) isn't currently counting against those cap numbers (thanks CF).

Now you've got me thinking about the yuckiness that would be a Strome for Murray swap.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Now you've got me thinking about the yuckiness that would be a Strome for Murray swap.

No lets get a 3rd Dominik.

 

[Gurglesons]

No lets get a 3rd Dominik.

I don't see Simon being qualified tbh.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Right?

Yep, that would get my attention and be the kind of roster player move I’d like. My concerns would be that he and Marino would be getting new deals at the same time and he’s not exempt from the expansion draft. If Matheson figures it out you’ve suddenly got 5 D you need to protect and 3 slots.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I don't see Simon being qualified tbh.

He can go. Send him to Hawks with Murray for Kubalik. Job done.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

I don't see Simon being qualified tbh.

He’ll be qualified, I think JR said they all would be and he’s decent enough not to toss away for nothing. Especially if Poulin isn’t ready and JJ is still here.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Gotta give a shout out to @JimmyTwoTimes for nailing the AAV prediction.

We all thought it would be something like this, but he stated 3.5 as a fact, and here we are today.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

They're pranking him. He'll show up and be the only guy in the arena that day.

 

[66-30-33]

Matt Murray has low value, though.

MM for Pens 2021 1st back.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Gonna absolutely howl if we trade up.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Right now the Pens are sitting at about 78.6m total caphit but the actual salary is only 71.5m. So there shouldnt be any problem spending to the cap now. The last couple deals have saved quite a bit in real money for next season.

I say they dump JJ at the draft. Maybe our 3rd +. Giving us just around 6mil for UFA. Where we can add a quality FA for our bottom 6, especially considering there will be some that take less money this year. On a short term deal.

Someone like Granlund on a year or two. You dont really want your bottom 6 filled with longterm contracts anyway. Caps are stuck with a lot of them, causing them to lose others.

We already have Tanev on one. Thats good enough. Continuing to rotate the bottom 6 every few years keeps the team from getting complacent. Allows for younger players to get their chance. And allows the team to add a skilled player in FA.

 

[Shrimper]

You know it’s bad when even the Yotes are buying out players while we continue to keep JJ.

The Pens never buyout players. It shouldn't be surprising

 

[Gurglesons]

@JimmyTwoTimes told you on Simon.

 

[Tom Hanks]

@JimmyTwoTimes told you on Simon.

Smug Pixie

 

[Ugene Magic]

Huh, I thought the league confirmed that 2021 was when the season would start.

It'll be a mid Jan. start like seasons cut short in the past. They know it works (2 lockout shorten seasons) Camp in Nov. and pre-season in Dec to Jan.

Make total sense.