Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: A New Error?

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  1. Scandale du Jour JordanStaal#1Fan

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    Veteran goalies who I think might be available and that the Pens would have interest in:
    • Quick
    • Rinne
    • Raanta
    • Rittich
    • Dubnyk
    • Holtby
     
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    I’m not sure a vintage starter goalie is quite what we need, but I trust Hextall to make that call, honestly.

    That said, having a legit vet to pair with Jarry is probably not a bad option, if you can move CDS and have faith in Jarry bouncing back.
     
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    My order of business would focus on the blueline, as immediate triage. Then the bottom 6, then the top 6. Then the goaltending situation. Because a goalie change might help you scrape some points up in the short term, it doesn’t make the team any more competitive if the forwards and blueline are still a hot mess.
     
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    It’s almost as if JR should have taken care of this during the off season.
     
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    Well, when would have have found the time to sign 6 different 4th liners and Ceci?

    Serious answer. Most people saw that as a risk going into the season, but JR gambled on a healthy blueline and a buy-in from the forwards on defensive play. Neither of those has happened, for reasons both beyond our control and also on the shoulders of the coaching staff and players. But I think that the organization needs to seriously evaluate what we have as far as potential for both goalies, once we get done affixing the other parts of the team.
     
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    Haha good point. He was definitely busy dumpster diving.
     
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    Again, I think that goaltending, while a definite problem, is not even the number two priority at the moment.
     
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    Trade Dumoulin and McCann for assets. As well as Sceviour, Erod, Lafferty, and Jankowski, but I don't think they'd get you much.
     
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    What would be #1 and #2 if not goaltending? I’d say coaching is #1 and goaltending is #2.
     
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    Haha I don’t think people want our garbage, even if they are cheap. Haha it’s crazy that two of these guys were our targets on day one of free agency.

    Granlund has 7 points in 10 games...

    If only...
     
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    Goaltending problems are much more systematic than the position, and likewise, bringing in an elite goaltender won’t really move the needle if the blueline can’t defend and the forwards can’t score and provide pressure. It’s a worry, but not one that we can fix with a roster change, I think.

    I’d also point out that some areas, like coaching, are probably not fixable until the off-season. So we have to work with what’s possible at this moment, not what might be the biggest problem in theory.

    For my money, I’d say the biggest problem is the blueline, once healthy. Right now it’s clear that we’re just treading water there waiting for Petts and company to get healthy. But a healthy blueline that’s playing a solid game makes any number of weak goalies look great. It doesn’t have to be an elite defense either, just working as a unit.

    I’d also look at the bottom 6, simply because that is the most easily fixable without giving up major assets. Cut the deadweight, promote some driven youngsters having success in the AHL, and maybe make a small trade for players that fit better.
     
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    They don’t need to, though. Clearing cap space and providing a spot for one or two internal solutions would be enough, late or mid round picks or even long shot prospects would be fine.
     
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    I was on the LA Kings board recently and they make it seem like Michael Amadio would be available. Potential middle six, two way, playmaking, right handed center with decent size and skating ability. I'd certainly take him over Jankowski.
     
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    Yup, a mini reset of dumb works...aka...just delete contracts as much as possible to give flexibility to fix shit
     
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    D healthy and playing their roles will improve the team. But the emergence of POJ should allow a deal to be made. I prefer Petts to move for a decent forward or good prospect/pick. Save the 4 million in cap space and get Matheson playing and becoming better in the system. He does have the skill set to be better. I also hope Dumo can return to near his peak form as well. No question they need Hamilton to take Letangs place next year. For now:
    Letang Dumo
    Marino Matheson
    POJ Ceci
    Ruhwedel Riikola
     
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    As far as the rest of the year less move are likely better.

    Look around for a bottom 6 center.

    Do your due diligence on your 5 LHD in case, if by some miracle, all 5 are ever healthy.

    Have a vet goalie on the radar in case Jarry cant turn it around.

    The fact if the matter is, is that the problem isnt the roster or the coach (those aint perfect but not the real issue) its that the main guys on the roster arent playing to their level. And there is no roster move or coach that cant over come your most important players not pulling their weight.
     
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    That is a good point now that the AHL is playing again, start promoting those guys that are playing well and sit all of these clowns that add nothing.

    The team should be able to make a decent deal by unloading a dmen when more people are healthy.
     
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    100% Raanta out of those choices. Check out his career stats. Dude's awesome.

    Sure, he gets injured a lot. But anyone coming to Pittsburgh will develop injury problems anyways so...
     
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    Right, once all the D are back, coaching, should be all like, yeah, all that we wanted you guys to do earlier, stop it. Now do this... 4 man box, with the 5th one pressuring the puck at all times. Absolutely nobody comes in our box...NOBODY!...without retribution.

    I can't believe we are even talking about goaltending changes....Is playing defense against the rules? Or some sacred covenant you are only allowed to do on Hockey Holidays?

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    Is making a save against the rules?
     
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    I still don't think the Pens should make that move. If they do, they've let Sullivan do it again to a young goalie. Such a massive disservice.
     
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    Is playing your starter so he gets his game back on track against the rules? Because I guess the Senators with our ex goalie didn't hear about it. But Sullivan sure loves f***ing around in net to not let a bloke that started to turn his game around and then was benched for over a week. Even against a team he was actually good against this season.

    This is less a goalie issue vs a coaching issue. I bet if you started Jarry a few games in a row after the two isles ones he'd bounce back.

    The rest of the team is playing like garbage...I guess it's not the coach's fault there either that they're playing with people that aren't a good fit with each other on their lines.
     
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    I agree that Sullivan should be letting Jarry try to play his way out of it, but as it stands he’s still been horrible.
     
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