Trade: [PIT/TB] Chris Archer for Tyler Glasnow, Austin Meadows and Shane Baz

[rangerssharks414]

Keller?

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

Strange they haven’t announced the PTBNL...possibly a 2018 draft pick?

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

I'm still picking my jaw up off the floor from this one...the Pirates, really? I'm no Glasnow fan but geez this is like six months after committing to a rebuild trading Cole, Cutch, etc - now they're doing a total about face. They do keep him from going to the Brewers possibly I suppose.

They rewarded the team and fanbase because they're in it.

I love it.

 

[darko]

MLB Network loves the return for Tampa. Meadows and Glasnow is huge.

It's a very good return.

Tampa did well this deadline.

 

[darko]

Strange they haven’t announced the PTBNL...possibly a 2018 draft pick?

Can't be. PTBNL has to be traded within 6 months. Draftees can't be traded for 12 months.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Strange they haven’t announced the PTBNL...possibly a 2018 draft pick?

It would pretty much have to be their first rounder considering the description, that first rounder was OF Travis Swaggerty.

Can't be. PTBNL has to be traded within 6 months. Draftees can't be traded for 12 months.

Rule was tweaked.

MLB, MLBPA agree to player to be named rule change

 

[darko]

That's a huge return value wise for TB. Think if I'm the Pirates I would have just kept Cole though???

They wanted to keep Cole but unfortunately he is heading towards free agency and they don't have the money to keep him.

 

[darko]

It would pretty much have to be their first rounder considering the description, that first rounder was OF Travis Swaggerty.



Rule was tweaked.

MLB, MLBPA agree to player to be named rule change

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Gotcha. Trea Turner Rule.

 

[darko]

Keller?

If it is Keller (which I doubt) that's a killer return.

 

[EpochLink]

Nice for the Pirates to be buyers at the deadline, they are still in the wild card hunt still.

 

[NJDevs26]

They rewarded the team and fanbase because they're in it.

I love it.

I wish they'd done it in their 98-win season and other years when they were more of a legit contender than now. They missed their best opportunities.

Nice for the Pirates to be buyers at the deadline, they are still in the wild card hunt still.

The second WC, which they're three games back of. And that's their only avenue in, they won't catch the Cubs/Brewers.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

I like this trade a lot for the Pirates. At the end of the day, it's finally committing fully to a direction, and to this solid but boring and unspectacular core of players. It's become clear that Huntington will not do a traditional rebuild, so this is as close as possible to loading up, and it's been done in such a way that we have 2.5-3 years further after this season, as well as retaining most of our top prospects (in a ho hum system) to potentially retool around when the time comes.

I'm sold on Archer getting a boost by coming to the NL generally, and a pitchers' park.

Meadows and Glasnow are both good gets for the Rays, but are potentially the kind of guys whose shine could begin to wear off within a calendar year. Meadows has had injuries and has never really excelled in the upper minors. Glasnow has flashed some brilliance out of the pen this year, but I'd place his odds of becoming a front line starter pretty low. It sounds like the TB pitching coach is a best case scenario for him, and I still think he'll become a useful MLB contributor, especially in the Rays pitching system.

The PTBNL could end up tilting this more in the Rays direction, but both of these guys were somewhat blocked in Pittsburgh for the forseeable future. I also wouldn't write off the Pirates for the division. We have tons of games remaining vs both the Brewers and Cubs, and we've played much better against the division than in any recent season, which I think is in large part because nobody in the division is a truly dominant force. It's a safe bet that a very difficult stretch of games that began tonight will keep us contained within the dog fight that is the NL wild card race, but I have to confess some recency bias in thinking that 6 games is not an insurmountable deficit... given that we went from being totally dead in the water about 3 weeks ago to this.

 

[Terry Yake]

really like this trade for TB

meadows and glasnow is a great haul

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Remember the Cole, Taillon and Glasnow hype...

Glasnow's a project....major command issues and below average 3rd pitch in his changeup that needs improvement if he'll ever be that top of the rotation guy he was drafted to be

 

[Voight]

Let the debate begin...Cole through 2019 or Archer through 2021 but at this cost?

Cole request a trade out of PIT. He didn't want to be there.

 

[MS]

Glasnow has been nearly unhittable in 3 starts with a limited pitch count so far and was touching 100 in his last start. Looks like a hell of a nice return for TB.

 

[MMC]

Glasnow has been nearly unhittable in 3 starts with a limited pitch count so far and was touching 100 in his last start. Looks like a hell of a nice return for TB.

Yeah this trade made no sense for the Pirates. They need to pick a direction and stick to it.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

It gets better for TB. 4th ranked Pirates prospect.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Trade looks brutal for Pirates honestly

They overpaid

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

Thank you, Pittsburgh. Not even a small sample hindsight thing. This was a horrible trade at the time. As a fan of a division rival I'm absolutely over the moon.

 

[rangerssharks414]

It gets better for TB. 4th ranked Pirates prospect.

Oyyyy... that's a lot.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I already didn’t like the trade for the Pirates and now it looks really bad.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Years of stockpiling prospects to do nothing when the team needs injected with talent...and then now it becomes acceptable to throw the kitchen sink at an overrated pitcher because the team is average instead of mediocre?

I know if it's damned if you do, damned if you don't...but just be f***ing smart for once, Pirates. Don't grossly overpay for a guy just to get a positive newspaper headline for once.

 

[darko]

It gets better for TB. 4th ranked Pirates prospect.

Ouch.

 

[MMC]

Years of stockpiling prospects to do nothing when the team needs injected with talent...and then now it becomes acceptable to throw the kitchen sink at an overrated pitcher because the team is average instead of mediocre?

I know if it's damned if you do, damned if you don't...but just be ****ing smart for once, Pirates. Don't grossly overpay for a guy just to get a positive newspaper headline for once.