Confirmed Signing with Link: [PIT] D John Marino signs extension (6 years, $4.4M AAV)

[The Great Mighty Poo]

I watched quite a few Penguins games last seasons and the kid really impressed me. Great deal for the Pens IMO

 

[BB06]

What's the fuss about? This contract is a steal!

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Their ice time does not reflect those players being 2nd line players.

Marino's does.

Marino and Letang play the same position. Your argument is essentially that if Marino doesn't play more minutes than Letang - who was fourth in ice time per game played last season - then this makes Marino's playing ability that of a 2nd-pairing defenseman.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

What's the fuss about? This contract is a steal!

Stop using logic on an internet message board, that doesn't get over well.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

I don't know who HBF Analytics are, but they had an interesting analysis of Marino:

HBF Analytics on Twitter: "John Marino, re-signed by the Penguins to a 6-year extension, was a defensive superstar in his rookie season. He might be due for a slight offensive regression, but he was immensely valuable to the Pens a year ago. Props to him for getting his money, he was quite the acquisition. https://t.co/8uOzBXIVJ0" / Twitter

 

[Turin]

He’s already the Penguins second best defender and their best in the D zone, passing Letang and even Dumoulin in that respect. Pretty remarkable to have him for under 5 mill.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

He’s already the Penguins second best defender and their best in the D zone, passing Letang and even Dumoulin in that respect. Pretty remarkable to have him for under 5 mill.

Stop using facts and logic, and join the pants on head culluration and just blindly say how bad this deal is what if
he becomes Jeff Finger, what if he gets hurt, what if he regresses. Purple monkey dishwasher.

 

[jonlin]

4gp 0+0 and a -4. The kid cashed in - Just sayin...

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

4gp 0+0 and a -4. The kid cashed in - Just sayin...

Scorching take. 4 games really?

 

[jonlin]

Scorching take. 4 games really?

Well as the second coming of Nick Lidström as most ppl here were saying the season didnt start too well. The guy have 1 season under his belt and his tires were pumped like never before. He hadnt shown any real success on any facet before last season and suddenly get a contract like this. Still think he will be a serviceable defenseman, but I have no clue why Penguins werent able to get a 2yr "show-me" bridge-deal at 2,5-3,5M

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Well as the second coming of Nick Lidström as most ppl here were saying the season didnt start too well. The guy have 1 season under his belt and his tires were pumped like never before. He hadnt shown any real success on any facet before last season and suddenly get a contract like this. Still think he will be a serviceable defenseman, but I have no clue why Penguins werent able to get a 2yr "show-me" bridge-deal at 2,5-3,5M

Can I see a quote w him and Lidstrom in the same paragraph other than yours?

 

[jonlin]

I'm not sure how it's weird for a fanbase to be excited to have a right handed d-man who just came off of one of the most impressive rookie seasons for a defenseman in the team's history locked up long term.

I raise you with Zarley Zalapski.

1987-1988 15gp 3g + 8a 11p +10
1988-1989 58gp 12g + 33a 45p +10

I give you that he was impressive. I just think he got a too fat contract too early. Sometimes theese kinda contract takes the drive off when you have your life set too early. I`d like to see a few good years before handing out theese

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

4gp 0+0 and a -4. The kid cashed in - Just sayin...

You do realize Malkin has 1 point in 4 games and is -3 right?

 

[SomeDude]

I raise you with Zarley Zalapski.

1987-1988 15gp 3g + 8a 11p +10
1988-1989 58gp 12g + 33a 45p +10

I give you that he was impressive. I just think he got a too fat contract too early. Sometimes theese kinda contract takes the drive off when you have your life set too early. I`d like to see a few good years before handing out theese

....what are you talking about? You had to go back 30+ years to find a comparable player, who isn't even comparable. You also act like Zalapski wasn't a good player after his first 2 seasons. To top it off, you're saying a player got paid too much after a 4 game sample where the entire team, except for a a few bottom 6 forwards, has looked like garbage. Go back to bed.

 

[1865]

4gp 0+0 and a -4. The kid cashed in - Just sayin...

If you make any serious judgements on players after four games you're a moron.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

Can I see a quote w him and Lidstrom in the same paragraph other than yours?

Spoiler alert! They don't exist

 

[Jerkbait]

If you make any serious judgements on players after four games you're a moron.

No firm judgment but he hasn't been great at all. He has shown flashes but also had some horrible pinches and made some bad defensive decisions. He needs to improve as he may be the most important D on this team now

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I've watched a few of the Pens games so far and sure I'll say that Marino hasnt looked too good... but honestly this season I've decided to not to start judging players till like the 7-10 game mark. I am kinda playing it off as the first 5ish games being the exhibition season.... alot of fans underestimate the importance of exhibition games to start the year and so far when watching games across the league, it has shown that those games have been heavily missed.... not to mention all players usual offseason training routines being screwed up

IMO it's unfair to judge all players this early in the season... cause if that is the case, I could easily trash talk multiple top players from every single team... but that isnt gonna happen

 

[Flying Dego]

I've watched a few of the Pens games so far and sure I'll say that Marino hasnt looked too good... but honestly this season I've decided to not to start judging players till like the 7-10 game mark. I am kinda playing it off as the first 5ish games being the exhibition season.... alot of fans underestimate the importance of exhibition games to start the year and so far when watching games across the league, it has shown that those games have been heavily missed.... not to mention all players usual offseason training routines being screwed up

IMO it's unfair to judge all players this early in the season... cause if that is the case, I could easily trash talk multiple top players from every single team... but that isnt gonna happen

Ya the entire Pens defense is terrible. That includes our forwards and goalies not doing their part.

Marino will be fine. He's shown flashes and made some errors so far. He's also a young D that's bound to have bumps in the road but we are pretty confident his floor is a good 2nd pairing D with his ceiling being a top pair guy.

 

[Lukin1978]

The whole team has been terrible let's give it more than 4 games before panic

 

[LRS87]

He’s been one of our better players this year. GTFO by describing a defenseman on +/- 4 games into the season.

 

[Mr. T]

Well as the second coming of Nick Lidström as most ppl here were saying the season didnt start too well. The guy have 1 season under his belt and his tires were pumped like never before. He hadnt shown any real success on any facet before last season and suddenly get a contract like this. Still think he will be a serviceable defenseman, but I have no clue why Penguins werent able to get a 2yr "show-me" bridge-deal at 2,5-3,5M

Yeah, sounds right.

 

[ted2019]

He’s been one of our better players this year. GTFO by describing a defenseman on +/- 4 games into the season.

It just appears to me that the penguins just might be struggling 5 on 5 this year more-so then anything.

 

[Jackpot Jaret]

Marino has definitely had a rough start, like the rest of the Penguins. However, he was a beast in game 2, anyone that watches the Penguins regularly should be able to see he's impressive and passes the "eye test". Marino is the absolute least of my worries.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Whole team is a mess, and a sophmore slump isn't unheard of. Ask me at the end of the season if i thought the contract was worth it. Right now I still think he's a bargain.