There's no way to rationalize your way around 1 goal in 35 games. Stating you "Don't give a shit" about the single most important part of a forward's job isn't an argument. Yes, we all know Danault is an excellent defensive forward, but without offence he's not contributing as much as he should. Certainly not enough to justify anything close to a $5M salary.yeah, ok.
Now, for those that are not finding agendas behind their criticism of Danault , refocus on the number of time the opposite teams didn't score in these last 35 games, because the play of Danault and his 2 linemates.
I really don't give a shit about Danault's number of goals. I give a shit about the number of goals his line scores versus the number of goals the opposite lines score
There's no way to rationalize your way around 1 goal in 35 games. Stating you "Don't give a shit" about the single most important part of a forward's job isn't an argument. Yes, we all know Danault is an excellent defensive forward, but without offence he's not contributing as much as he should. Certainly not enough to justify anything close to a $5M salary.
You're spending a lot of energy creating make-believe stories of people hating the player. The reality is straightforward as the numbers: he's playing poorly in a contract year. There's a large disconnect between what he wants and the level at which he's playing. Personally, I love the Danault from two years ago until the first half of the 2019/20 season. That player is very valuable; the player we're currently seeing... much less so.
@Wats
He doesn't get PP time because he sucks offensively and can't produce anything. You think him playing 18min average last season and not being able to crack the powerplay is not obvious enough? lol.
Okay I get this , but what's the point of what we were talking about beforeYeah I don't see the problem, he isn't being played over KK/Suzuki who are better offensively. He gets more PK and DZone defensive matchups because he is better defensively. He's not old, local (removes some media pressure to force acquire more), somewhat developed internally, best FO C by a mile, has some size/grind. Feel like people are forgetting how hard it actually is to develop C for the Habs. I'd be happy with Danault for 5 more years.
I rather KK continue getting sheltered ~60% ozone starts (this is Desharnais level). Until he is actually ready to take his game to another level.
Personally feel having the C-RW duos locked up makes roster deep and tougher to play against:
Suzuki - Anderson
Kotkaniemi - Toffoli
Danault - Gallagher
Perhaps Tatar can replace Perry/Armia on KK/Toffoli wing. That's only downside I see right now
Okay I get this , but what's the point of what we were talking about before
Its true, but look at both teams now, they lost a good bit of talent, do you think theyd rather have Bozak or Pietrangelo?I was responding to someone saying you can't have successful teams with pricy 3rd C. Pointed out last 2 Cup winners had 5M 3rd Cs and they aren't exactly that much better/if at all than Danault IMO.
At the same time they play third line duty but they can play pp and have a more offensive role. Points are not everything in terms of what of the income of the player has. As an exemple if Blues had an injury in the top 6 and Bozak was the third line center , he could end up replacing the player and has the pp time. Same goes for Johnson that he is playing on a heavy stacked team.I was responding to someone saying you can't have successful teams with pricy 3rd C. Pointed out last 2 Cup winners had 5M 3rd Cs and they aren't exactly that much better/if at all than Danault IMO.
2 goals in 44 games and 1 is an empty net.Yeah no
Hell no
not $6 mil per season for next 5 years.
the guy hasn’t scored in 20 games.
At the same time they play third line duty but they can play pp and have a more offensive role. Points are not everything in terms of what of the income of the player has. As an exemple if Blues had an injury in the top 6 and Bozak was the third line center , he could end up replacing the player and has the pp time. Same goes for Johnson that he is playing on a heavy stacked team.
Danault with injury or not , he can't replace someone that produce offensively. Danault is not worth the 5m a season that he refused or even more. I agree that Danault if he was so stay would be a great benefits for us in th elong term. But a good price. I wouldn't mind signing Danault at the FA for 4-5years at 3.5m- 4m a season.
Habs should not anchor another contract with Danault with Price , Weber and Gallagher who cost enough already at long terms.
Also habs will need money to sign people with low contracts and try to find a new LHD in the future. Can't give money to everybody.
This team is doing great but if we did not play Vancouver 5 times this season im not so sure if he would be top 5 in the league right now.
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Its true, but look at both teams now, they lost a good bit of talent, do you think theyd rather have Bozak or Pietrangelo?
Would you rather have those and bozak or Pie plus a 2mill player.I'm not sure that's accurate description of why they lost Pietrangelo. They signed Hoffman and Krug this offseason for a combined 10.5M cap hit.
@Wats
He doesn't get PP time because he sucks offensively and can't produce anything. You think him playing 18min average last season and not being able to crack the powerplay is not obvious enough? lol.
Under sorry, almost 1/4 of the season is over and he is on pace for zero. I figure 6, maybe 8 with 2 open nets at the end of games.Over under on goals this year for him.... maybe 8?
3.5 M AAV is max offer for me.
Or Price for the habs. I am not even thrilled about gallys contract. But at least TT's good contract is offsetting it.Give a long ass contract to Danault and we'll talk about him like they talked about Kyle Turris after his time with Ottawa.
I'm off the Danault train.
Zuki asked who in the team was a good PP player, last season ?
Him having that 90 seconds or so PP time last season may be part of why that PP wasn't all that good. He just isn't that creative with the puck. Hard working D specialist center. But that hardly constitutes 5 + contracts. Esp if he is continued to be used ahead of KK because as it stands he is getting the most icetime of our forwards not named suzuki even without PP time, and usually by several minutes, even above his own linemates, who do play on the PP.
If people want to talk about faceoff percentages and the need for danault, then why is Suzuki getting PK time, and end of game/period assignments with his dismal 40 or lower faceoff% KK is at 46% so on that basis he should have seen more faceoffs than suzuki. So no Danault good faceoff percentage isn't actually that important, just solid defensive play, hence suzuki taking critical faceoffs even if he isn't good at it.
This is insane................Phil should fire his agent who walked away from 30M dollars.2 goals in 44 games and 1 is an empty net.