Discussion in 'Montreal Canadiens' started by ahmedou, Nov 24, 2018.
Plekanec 3 games, 1 goal
Danault 31 games 2 goals
Should be traded while his value hasn't cratered. He's good defensively and does the dirty work but those players aren't too hard to replace.
It would have been easier to do this at the deadline this year or during the summer while we still had Jacob DeLaRose, say instead of Matthew Peca, thus using the latter in a defensive forward role, and perhaps bolstering our LD with what we could get for Danault.
Very disappointed in his offensive output considering his ice time. He belongs nowhere near a top 2 line role. The question then becomes who would take his minutes? Kotkaniemi is not ready defensively
Danault got his top 6 role pretty much the day DD was traded and since then retained this role for most of the games.
Since February 28th 2017 Danault as a top 6 center got 50 points in 102 games. This is good for 40 points every 82 games which really is not enough considering he is playing 16:56 every games. In the same period of time Eller got 56 points in 132 games which is good for 35 points every 82 games. Eller is playing on average 35 seconds less than Danault. If you reduce Danault's TOI he's pretty much Lars Eller.
I like the player but he is slowly becoming DD 2.0. This is sad cause it's not his fault. The excuse that we have no one else is stupid cause then if we really have no one then why Danault instead of someone else cause Danault sure is not doing the job himself.
I really hope this is Danault last season as a top 6 center and that next year we will challenge Kok cause if not this will quickly become a toxic situation. We must not shelter Kok for more than a year. he needs to be challenged next season and given opportunities to prove he can do it.
I'm surprised Gaston hasn't already been trying to tell everyone how Danault is the best center on the team and should be getting more opportunities than he already does
I think he has........on A/C recently, he seemed to be complaining that Koko has been getting too much TOI at Dano's expense...even thought Dano has about 3 min per game more...lol Poor Phil he is about to be the new Desharnais!!
of course he was.
No that's not at all what they said
We can pretend though if you'd like
Just putting it out there, because that's what was said on here, in reference to that exact discussion. But hey, no big deal...
How come am I not surprised?
3 goals in his last 53 games. Tell me again how great his even strength numbers are tho.
Kotka > Danault and it’s not close. The modern day Desharnais.
So much for this Weise+Flash vs Danault+2nd being such a steal for us.
We traded two 3rd liners for another 3rd liner and a 2nd pick.
I always thought Danault was just Eller with less upside. Some were convinced he was more of a DD with a strong defense. I never saw it. DD had offensive upside, not a whole lot, but he had some decent vision and passing abilities...I see very little of it in Danault.
Really funny to read Bergey speak of Danault after the trade:
''Phillip Danault is a young and gifted player who will be part of our core group of young forwards for many years to come. I am very pleased to have him join our organization. As a member of the Blackhawks management group, I was instrumental in the selection of Phillip in the first round of the 2011 NHL Draft''
Instrumental hey Bergey...just how much of an important player in the Hawks drafting this 3rd liner you were self-cheering yourself on??
He brings nothing offensively. Invisible basically every game. Hell, even Chaput makes more things happen than Danault.
Ding Ding. You hit the nail on the head. We are stuck with Danault as a top 2C for a bit yet. Can't wait till Kotkaniemi and Poehling are matured enough to move Danault down to 3C which becomes very good up the middle.
Lehkonen / Kotkaniemi / Suzuki
Domi / Poehling / Drouin
Tatar or Byron / Danault / Gallagher
Agostino / Evans or Chaput / Armia
I bet you Olofsson might push for Danault's spot in a few years. I'm also moving Domi to wing. I think Poehling would be a great piece up the middle of Domi and Drouin. Possibly even next year. Lets remember, Poehling has a NHL size body already and he also plays the reliable type of 200' game that Julien will love.
f*** it! Go with youth next year. Unload one of Tatar or Byron. Maybe Petry too if we get a GM who wants to pry him away in trade value.
He's not so much similar to DD in terms of skills and abilities, but rather in term of process on how they gets points. Both just look useless offensively for 99% of an entire game, but find ways to pile up points for being on the ice at the right time.
While I agree DD just benefitted from his usage, he still had some moments offensively. He'd still make the odd plays once in a while that was actually somewhat impressive. He had some vision.
Danault has none of that. He's really just a 3rd line checking center. He has very little offensive upside. I can't recall a single time where he impressed me offensively.
Danault is playing top 6 until Kotkaniemi is ready.... by the end of the year.
And it's the right plan. No need to rush Kotka, he'll move up when the time's right.
PD must be really starting to feel the heat with each passing scoreless game.
Good thing MB gave him his money on that last contract, with a young family and all.
We traded two non-factors that weren't gonna be around next year for a 3rd liner and a 2nd round pick. Not franchise-altering but that is a good trade.
Meh..getting Danault was pretty pointless, at least so far.
We got a long term roster player. That's not pointless unless you mean it didn't help us win the cup by which definition 99% of trades are pointless.
Schlemko is a roster player...so is Benn..who cares.
Danault is a checking center, there isn't much there. I'd have rathered another pick.
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