Player Discussion Phillip Danault - Damn-oh ! Edition

Discussion in 'Montreal Canadiens' started by ahmedou, Nov 24, 2018.

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During this 2018/2019 season where should be playing Phillip Danault?

  1. 1st Line

    11.4%
  2. 2nd Line

    53.6%
  3. 3rd Line

    32.9%
  4. 4th Line

    2.1%
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  1. cphabs

    cphabs The 2 stooges

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    While under the age of 72...
     
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    Don't agree. I don't think Kotka is ready for 2nd line duties and he is progressing just fine. No reason to push him too far too fast at his age. It's a long season for a kid his age and he will wear out.
     
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    18, 19, 20 years old kids gets put on top 2 lines regularly nowadays...
     
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    Why would they do that, why insulate Danault and let's say .....not insulate Peca, i would really like to know why you think they insulate Danault

    The way i see it, there is no other solution than using Danault as 2C...... if the management think that an 18 years old need to be protected from having to play ahainst 1st or 2nd pairing D and 1 or 2C of the other teams, seems pretty obvious to me
     
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    It’s been done from day one. He’s always played with terrific wingers. Some of , if not our best
    I don’t know why. They did he same with DD
    Danault should be on the 3rd line. There’s no reason why KK shouldn’t be on the top 2 lines
    18-20 year olds are now getting top minutes
    Danault works hard , that’s great but he is talentless
    When a guy has 1 goal in 24 games , that’s saying a lot
     
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    you guys liack imagination... it's like it would be impossible to give him better winger/s without having him face tougher assignments ? really ?

    where does it says that if you switch Lehkonen/Gallagher for example you HAVE TO then give KK tougher matchups ?
     
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    Kaperi Spacey Thank you MB for this great team.

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    I feel that no matter who do you play with Danault, he will get his 30-40 points. So give him 3rd liners like him and give Tatar and Gally to a better player...
     
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    There’s no way danault would get points playing with Lehkonen and agostino during this stretch while Byron is out
    Danault doesn’t make others around him better , they make him better
     
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    why blame danault ? not his fault if habs dont have any real centers in two first lines
     
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    I’m not blaming danault. I’m just saying he’s a run of the mill 3rd line centre with very little offensive skill
    It’s the bergevins fault that danault is in way over his head
     
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    sure

    i dont blame the guy

    anyone in his position takes the money and runs

    only in montreal would he have gotten this chance and $$
     
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    It’s not even the money. 3 million is pretty much average salary for an average pplayer nowadays
    That’s what danault is. An average 3rd liner that needs terrific wingers to put up points
     
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    Dont see the need to break Gally-Tatar duo, it's working just fine as it is, i'm sure KK will get the 2C role sooner than later, why would they rush it
     
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    He started his 2nd season with us on the 4th line with Mitchel at C


    Dont know why you bring DD in the sonversation, DD and Danault have nothing in common 2 very different players


    Agree that Phil would be perfect as a 3C when KK is ready, the difference between you and me on that is that i'm in no rush i think they are doing the right thing with KK right now
     
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    DD needed terrific wingers to produce. Danault is the exact same. He’s played with Radulov, Pacioretty, Tatar and Gallagher. These are good wingers
    Oh my apologies. We got danault at the deadline and he played 4th line for bit
    Danault should never see the top 2 lines. He’s not even close to what Pleks was in his prime
     
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    Both have seen their production drop. Habs losing 4 straight
     
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    You got a point there, Gally and Tatar are a little less productive lately but they still produce it's not like they went 6-7 games without scoring, every players except the McKinnon's McDavid's of the league goes trough that

    My opinion is, i would not break that duo, if they go on a downfall production wise i would try KK with them , like i said earlier having KK take over Danault spot is a matter of time, just dont see the urgency of doing it
     
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    now with alzner gone
    does he have the worst contract on habs ?( excl price/weber)
     
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    Urgency ? More like theres no reason to wait imo.
     
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    I am not demanding that KK be put on the second line right now. I'm just saying that Danault is evidently not a goal scorer and should not be playing top 2C going forward. And there are some people here who seem to think he should. I don't know why. In my opinion lack of goal scoring from their centres has been the Habs most serious problem for at least ten years. I pointed this out 9 years ago here. I cannot understand how some people don't understand this. I think it might have to do with age.
     
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    Geez I guess watching Habs and other teams for 45 years and playing the game and noticing that all successful teams have centres that score goals, with players like Jaques Lemaire, and Selke winners like Guy Carbonneau , Anze Kopitar ,Pavel Datsyuk and Steve Yzerman means jack ****. Damn. I just don't know the game I guess.
     
  23. bushfirebaby

    bushfirebaby I don't get it Big Dan

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    Does anyone here really buy Danault as a top 6 C? I think there's more of a question about if it's the right time to move Kotkaniemi up. It's been debated non-stop here and I don't want to do to the Danault thread what I helped do to the Kotkaniemi thread but I think almost everyone knows that having Danault in your top 6 means you're at best a pretender. He's not good enough. I think Jesperi looked like the 3 games in 4 nights wore him down a bit and it might be best to just let Danault take that role for at least through the all-star break or so of this season and ease Kotkaniemi into it but make no mistake, I don't think Danault is the answer and I can't wait for the day they put Kotkaniemi in that role full time and he's legitimately ready to handle it.
     
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    Gomez probably. Or DD. Ongoing issue much? MB is a ******. He should have identified and acted on this problem immediately he was hired. It should have been his highest priority. Not Danault's fault at all. Its all on MB.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you're convinced you were refuting my post but I'm not seeing it. Good for you playing the game, but why are you bringing Datsyuk, Yzerman, Kopitar, etc... into it? Are you under the impression Danault is stealing ice time from Kopitar? BTW, since you mention him... he and Danault both have the same number of points, 13. That's despite Kopitar having optimal matchups, more ice time, better wingers and more powerplay time.

    But anyways, back to the point: which is that this article showcases statistically why Danault's line is one of the most effective of the entire NHL this year. One of the rare positives with this tea, somehow turned into a negative for pretty suspicious reasons...
     
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