Player Discussion Phillip Danault - Damn-oh ! Edition

[Mrb1p]

I don't really understand how that has any bearing on Danault's effectiveness as a center on his line. If you are looking for goals out of Danault with Gallagher setting him up I think you are looking in the wrong places.

How does a team's best defensive center lead to his wingers having career seasons? I think you are discounting his value the 47% of the time they don't have the puck.

As if Gallagher and Danault needed a defensive center to succeed ? Gally is probably better than Danault defensively.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I think Domi's clearly our best offensive center. For now he'll be our number one. If/when KK develops, Domi will become our number two. And that should be a pretty good one two punch.

KK, Domi, where is Poehling in that? Sometimes I wonder if Poeling would be better than KK in one or two years from now. Domi could do pretty well moved to the wing position. Danault is pretty decent in an hard position right now and could be at his best as a 3rd line center in a winning team.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

As if Gallagher and Danault needed a defensive center to succeed ? Gally is probably better than Danault defensively.

I think you underestimate Danault in the Gally's play. Danault create good scoring occasions to Gally. He's good as creating turnovers. Gally is a go-to-net guy and the role of his center is backchecking in case it doesn't work. Danault does it, as most centers of the league do, including the very best scoring centers of the league. He doesn't score many goals but at the end of the day he's in the positive plus and minus.

 

[Eegs]

As if Gallagher and Danault needed a defensive center to succeed ? Gally is probably better than Danault defensively.

That's debatable, i'll give you that! Enjoy the game!

 

[calder candidate]

Again, Gallagher is a full 10 assists under his career average, if thats not "negatively impacted" I don't know what the heck it is.

Have they been good together? For sure. Is it optimal ? I doubt it.

He is 9 back of his carrer high...
Gally Assist carrer high is 23 twice in 82 games and 22 in 81 games he has 14 assists with 15 games left...No one is going to mistake Gallagher for a great play maker. Before this season .29 assists per game is his career avg,, he is at .21 right now and is goal per game avg. was was .29 this year he is a .45 goal per game...

 

[schnapshot]

You seem to blame Danault’s lack of scoring ability for Gallagher’s low assist totals... I wonder how you would lower Danault if Gallagher had more assists than he currently does yet Danault had the same number of goals.

It’s fascinating how Gallagher and Tatar are having career years with him yet you mention their seasons would be even better with him lol

 

[calder candidate]

What about Domi whos played with Lekh, Shaw, Byron, Drouin, Armia, Agostino?

Pretty sure Tatar and Douin were swap line for a few game at some point earlier in the season, Drouin a great game with Gally and Danualt but that didn't last, Tatar and Domi didn't generate much and Tarar when back with is line...

 

[Mrb1p]

You seem to blame Danault’s lack of scoring ability for Gallagher’s low assist totals... I wonder how you would lower Danault if Gallagher had more assists than he currently does yet Danault had the same number of goals.

It’s fascinating how Gallagher and Tatar are having career years with him yet you mention their seasons would be even better with him lol

Goals have to come from somewhere... If everyone is having the exact same numbers on the line but Gally has more assists I fail to see how that works. I guess the LW could be upgraded ? That doesn't help Danault much.

 

[Mrb1p]

Pretty sure Tatar and Douin were swap line for a few game at some point earlier in the season, Drouin a great game with Gally and Danualt but that didn't last, Tatar and Domi didn't generate much and Tarar when back with is line...

Yeah, that chemistry had time to settle, right? Tatar looked good with Domi, btw.

 

[calder candidate]

Yeah, that chemistry had time to settle, right? Tatar looked good with Domi, btw.

You are right it probably didn't last that long...
Honestly I don't remember Tatar looking better than he didn't with Danault or that it really improved Domi line... I remember thinking that Tatar had more impact with Danault line and that they should switch them back...

 

[Mrb1p]

You are right it probably didn't last that long...
Honestly I don't remember Tatar looking better than he didn't with Danault or that it really improved Domi line... I remember thinking that Tatar had more impact with Danault line and that they should switch them back...

Tatar looked really good from what I remember and had a multipoint game with Domi.

 

[schnapshot]

Goals have to come from somewhere... If everyone is having the exact same numbers on the line but Gally has more assists I fail to see how that works. I guess the LW could be upgraded ? That doesn't help Danault much.

He could get other assists on goals from Dmen or on powerplay goals (where he wouldn’t play with Danault) but whatever man... Gallagher’s just not a playmaker, never has been and you’re using it to try and prove that Danault is a nuisance to his assist production... Incredibly far-fetched.

 

[Mrb1p]

Hell of a goal by Danault.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hell of a goal by Danault.

*Danault has a good game last time*
You: ehhh not that good
*Danault with a rough game tonight*
You: lol i told you he sucks

 

[Mrb1p]

*Danault has a good game last time*
You: ehhh not that good
*Danault with a rough game tonight*
You: lol i told you he sucks

You described it pretty well, his good is not that good and his terrible is terrible, thanks.

 

[The Great Weal]

You described it pretty well, his good is not that good and his terrible is terrible, thanks.

Anytime. It's amazing how elite players Tatar and Gallagher make 13th forward Danault be on pace for over 50 points.

 

[Mrb1p]

Anytime. It's amazing how elite players Tatar and Gallagher make 13th forward Danault be on pace for over 50 points.

It's amazing people think Gallagher isn't an elite player for real.

 

[calder candidate]

Tatar looked really good from what I remember and had a multipoint game with Domi.

I understand that ultimately points matter but Drouin had multi game with Danault but the line was still not has effective, Domi had 5 pts with Drouin and Shaw (but that was against DET sleep walking) and Armia score the least deserved hat trick ever againt the rangers, if you only look at the number of pts in a game to draw a conclusion... I guess I wasn't the only one that think that the overall effect wasn't positive because they did switch back...

 

[Mrb1p]

I understand that ultimately points matter but Drouin had multi game with Danault but the line was still not has effective, Domi had 5 pts with Drouin and Shaw (but that was against DET sleep walking) and Armia score the least deserved hat trick ever againt the rangers, if you only look at the number of pts in a game to draw a conclusion... I guess I wasn't the only one that think that the overall effect wasn't positive because they did switch back...

Drouin and Danault should never be together, but that doesn't mean the alternative is Tatar AND Gallagher.

 

[Mrb1p]

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[Mrb1p]

Danault turnover counter: 8
Danault nice play: 2
Danault own goal: 1

Update if you haven't watched the game tonight.
Didn't get a single rep when we needed a goal late in the 2nd after 2 minutes 30ish.

Quite the 2nd line C.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Excluding this year Gallagher averaged 24.4 assists per 82 games played. This year he's on pace for 17.1. You don't have to be a playmaker to hit 20 assists, the fact that Gallagher isn't doing it this year is a cause for concern.

Gally is the book perfect definition of a "grinder" if you go read a bit about the different style.

He is the perfect Grinder archetype.

 

[Guns n Roses]

Danault turnover counter: 8
Danault nice play: 2
Danault own goal: 1

Update if you haven't watched the game tonight.
Didn't get a single rep when we needed a goal late in the 2nd after 2 minutes 30ish.

Quite the 2nd line C.

He’s a 3rd line center who can fill in for the 2nd line when needed.

 

[schnapshot]

Danault turnover counter: 8
Danault nice play: 2
Danault own goal: 1

Update if you haven't watched the game tonight.
Didn't get a single rep when we needed a goal late in the 2nd after 2 minutes 30ish.

Quite the 2nd line C.

*Danault has one bad game against one of the best teams in the league*
There! I told you he sucked! Point proven

 

[Andrei79]

Danaults a good player, but as a 3rd line C or 3rd line wing. I want us to keep him. I dont understand the need to defend his play as a 2nd line center though, he's just not good enough if we want to take a step towards contending.