Hollywood Cannon
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Well, yeah, but I mean at least prepare what you're going to say and say something better than that.
Not exactly what this fan base wants to hear right now.
OT: Phillies: I'm Starting To Think Our Bank Accounts Are Frozen: Offseason Part Two
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Well, yeah, but I mean at least prepare what you're going to say and say something better than that.
Not exactly what this fan base wants to hear right now.
OrangeAndBlackMetal
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If Harper doesn’t want to be here why are the pitchforks coming out after our owner? Lol
Hollywood Cannon
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has anyone ever gotten full value, from a player, that boras got one of these auction contracts for? buyer beware.
Branko
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psh everyone is up in air with the Klentak quote. How I'm reading it "If Boras wants to play games, I can play them too."
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Yeah this is just posturing from the team.
Still expect Harper to be with the Phils on Opening Day. Ownership has made too many promises for them to fail this late. You don't joke that you're prepared to throw money around stupidly and then balk when the best FA wants to sign the most expensive contract.
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i think the issue is coming from the sense that you shouldn't play games in contract negotiations with a guy who's allegedly on the fence about coming to your team in the first place.
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Don’t get why the owners have to spend money. There is no obligation on their part to do so, as there is no payroll floor in baseball. Thinking the league might finally get a salary cap with a cap/payroll floor as a compromise. There really already is a salary cap in baseball with the luxury tax thresholds any way. The players will of course balk again at the idea of a salary cap (has been a common ask by the owners every time the deals are) but the MLBPA shouldn’t moan about spending if again the owners don’t have to reason to spend and can just pocket the money. Chris Sale put it best in regards to Kimbrel not being signed, too many teams are just “collecting checks” instead of being competitive and fielding the best team possible. The question would be if it’s a hard cap like the NHL, a soft cap like the NBA, or a team specific cap like the NFL. The NFL had a payroll floor for a while, where the teams had to spend 89% of their respective cumulative cap ceilings during a 5 year period (2011-2015). Could see something like this applied to the MLB as a trial run.
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Branko
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Totally agree but at some point you need to hold your ground. Boras is milking this thing for every dollar. Klentak can't just say SURE HERES $50 MILLION MORE or he will just keep pushing.
And honestly, I would be more concerned if Harper didn't have reservations about coming here. It's clearly not all about the money to him. He'd be moving from a division rival and essentially make himself public enemy number 1 in DC. I'm sure he's also heard all the stereotypes about Philly fans. He knows that with that contract, he's essentially the face of the franchise. If anything goes wrong, he's the first guy that's gonna get called out.
I think Harper is going to ask for an opt-out clause, similar to the one Machado got, since there are rumors of an MLB team coming to Vegas.
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Going strictly by on-field performance, A-Rod certainly outperformed his original contract and probably his second one (which Boras wasn't around for and he didn't complete. There was a lot of off-the-field stuff, PED suspension, and low-key douchebaggery, but he won 3 MVPs and hit 500 homers after leaving Seattle.
Max Scherzer's won 2 Cy Young Awards and finished 5th and 2nd in his four seasons with Washington. They've gotten their money's worth.
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I wonder if they think Harper is worth the 326 over 10 years. If you do then stop playing around and make the offer. Get him into camp to join the team and ready for some spring ball.
We will be set to take a run at Trout in two years then when he is a UFA
We will be set to take a run at Trout in two years then when he is a UFA
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1 and a half. out of how many. this may only be my opinion, but i view boras as a shady snake oil salesman. i agree agents should do the best for their clients,but their are limits as to how you get that done. if whoever signs harper wins a championship because of that, then it's worth it, otherwise not worth the money, or the time chasing him and playing boras' games.
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The owners/front offices convincing fans that Scott Boras is/was some villain as if they don’t have the same motivations but on the other side of the fence was a great con.
Now a days Boras is pretty much just a boogeyman. The owner’s pretty much reduced the guy’s effectiveness by getting rid of incompetent front offices who’d just give the guy what he’s looking for.
Now a days Boras is pretty much just a boogeyman. The owner’s pretty much reduced the guy’s effectiveness by getting rid of incompetent front offices who’d just give the guy what he’s looking for.
My nightmare scenario is the Phillies draw a line in the sand at like 310 when Borus wants 330...they burn the bridge and a few weeks later Bryce signs for 300 with another team or takes the short term deal with SF.
I cant see any other team offering 330...the Phils shouldnt hesitate. If they do it could cost them.
I cant see any other team offering 330...the Phils shouldnt hesitate. If they do it could cost them.
those guys were great players, some with peds,how many championships did they win.
don't know,i was talking about freeagent signing and boras trying to squeeze everyone out of every last penny. did roy demand the largest contract in history. take peds.or dick the team around.
Halladay got paid $76M over four years, not sure if he could have gotten more. Don't know if he took PEDs.
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