OT: Philadelphia Eagles: This is the end

[BringBackHakstol]

I wouldn't say no to a Hicks replacement either, but completely agreed.

Setting aside the indefensible Thorson pick because I do like that they took a shot on a QB, I think they largely fell into a trap of having bodies who weren't necessarily particularly good and counting on them. One would think the injuries neutralize that approach to some degree.

As far as Safety goes, Howie has openly said he doesn't evaluate the position well in college a few years back. Unfortunately, he probably just signs another vet. Especially after completely passing on last year's class. Sigh.

What do you think about the state of the offensive and defensive lines?

 

[Cody Webster]

WIP hot take: trade Ertz.

Goedert proved he's a pretty good TE and Ertz isn't getting any younger. Trade him while he still has value.

 

[trostol]

WIP hot take: trade Ertz.

Goedert proved he's a pretty good TE and Ertz isn't getting any younger. Trade him while he still has value.

thats been ongoing most of the year

 

[BrindamoursNose]

WIP hot take: trade Ertz.

Goedert proved he's a pretty good TE and Ertz isn't getting any younger. Trade him while he still has value.

That was my opinion when Jalen Ramsey was out there. It's not an outrageous thought. Goeddert is going to get paid at some point and you'll likely have to choose between the two.

 

[flyershockey]

Short term: Both Jeff and Doug need to be screaming to the hills about the hit that Wentz took tonight. Need to set precedent tonight about Carson's protection moving forward. That's a given flag if Clowney hits Rodgers, Brady, Wilson, etc. on that hit.

Long term: Get younger at the draft in a bunch of places. Safety, WR, LB, OL. I know it's unreasonable to expect this, but they need 5 legitimate NFL players in this draft to turn this roster over. This is a big make or break year for the personnel staff.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

You cross that bridge when the day comes but that day isn’t today. The odds of you landing a player in a trade better than Ertz regardless of position just isn’t likely.

 

[flyershockey]

You cross that bridge when the day comes but that day isn’t today. The odds of you landing a player in a trade better than Ertz regardless of position just isn’t likely.

Trading the better player for futures or pieces rarely works out in the NFL. The analytics on player value are too precise. It isn't like the NHL where you can sucker a GM into overvaluing "intangibles".

 

[flyershockey]

Zach Ertz is a straight up GOAT. Love this guys and his commitment to the franchise and city.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

What do you think about the state of the offensive and defensive lines?

Can't put any more money/premium assets into DT, so it's not even worth discussing. They definitely need EDGEs. Miller would be a pleasant surprise to even be a rotational guy. Sweat is only that. Barnett is a mediocre starter. Hopefully Hall is a situational guy.

You probably have one more year before Kelce retires. Two if you're lucky. Dillard's going to play. The right side is locked in. I would guess additions there are cheap/depth ones.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I can't even get mad about the flag against Clowney. I just don't even care.

Wentz still would've been out for the game and the 15 yards or whatever wouldn't make a difference. Maybe a Clowney ejection would've, but even that's questionable.

I'm just a little sad.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Sports continue to exist solely to cause you pain.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Refs said penalty wasn’t given because Wentz didn’t give himself up.

Remember that time he dove for the end zone against the Falcons and they said he gave himself up?

I memba.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Sports continue to exist solely to cause you pain.

We do sports wrong. Almost every year is disappointing.

We should pick one team to root against instead. Then you almost always win in the end.

 

[Halladay]

Im pretty sure Sherman was ejected in a game where he hit Mariota out of bounds and this hit was so much worse. Should have been ejected.

 

[StreetHawk]

Short term: Both Jeff and Doug need to be screaming to the hills about the hit that Wentz took tonight. Need to set precedent tonight about Carson's protection moving forward. That's a given flag if Clowney hits Rodgers, Brady, Wilson, etc. on that hit.

Long term: Get younger at the draft in a bunch of places. Safety, WR, LB, OL. I know it's unreasonable to expect this, but they need 5 legitimate NFL players in this draft to turn this roster over. This is a big make or break year for the personnel staff.

That's asking for way too much. Even with the compensatory picks for Foles, Tate, and Hicks, which are in rounds 3, 4, 5. Playoff teams generally end up with 1, maybe 2 rookie starters. Adding mostly day 3 picks if you are trading down multiple times. Generally going to be depth or situational guys in year 1.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Even with the compensatory picks for Foles, Tate, and Hicks, which are in rounds 3, 4, 5.

It's not changing your larger point, but OverTheCap is projecting them to end up with a 3rd and two 4ths.

 

[Van Buren Boy]

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

We do sports wrong. Almost every year is disappointing.

We should pick one team to root against instead. Then you almost always win in the end.

I can tell you in no uncertain terms that this doesn't work either, unfortunately. I mean, mathematically, it works most of the time, but the times it doesn't work are bad enough that you don't really want to go on living the rest of the time.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Refs said penalty wasn’t given because Wentz didn’t give himself up.

Remember that time he dove for the end zone against the Falcons and they said he gave himself up?

I memba.

Does the NFL have a specific targeting call like the NCAA? If they do I don’t really see how that matters if he gave up or not. Clowney still struck Wentz’s helmet with the crown of his helmet.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Refs said penalty wasn’t given because Wentz didn’t give himself up.

Remember that time he dove for the end zone against the Falcons and they said he gave himself up?

I memba.

NfL rUleS

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Also, remember that time Clowney nearly took Nick Foles’ head off last year? Around the same exact spot on the field. Refs must have a blind spot for Clowney right there.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Does the NFL have a specific targeting call like the NCAA? If they do I don’t really see how that matters if he gave up or not. Clowney still struck Wentz’s helmet with the crown of his helmet.

It does not, to my knowledge.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

NfL rUleS

ComMmON sENsE prEVaILs

 

[bennysflyers16]

Refs said penalty wasn’t given because Wentz didn’t give himself up.

Remember that time he dove for the end zone against the Falcons and they said he gave himself up?

I memba.

What about the headfirst spear to the back of his head ?

I knew the league would cover their asses on this.

Like said above, this does not go uncalled vs Brady Wilson Rodgers Mahomes or 10 others. Doug needs to be complaining to anyone that will listen

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Does the NFL have a specific targeting call like the NCAA? If they do I don’t really see how that matters if he gave up or not. Clowney still struck Wentz’s helmet with the crown of his helmet.

I could maybe buy that he didn't do it on purpose - where it was one of those situations that you go to hit a guy in one place and that part of his body isn't there anymore and is replaced by his head as he is falling to the ground. Maybe. But it shouldn't matter at all - it was a head-to-head bullet shot. They blew it hard. You can't tell me that the league truly, deep down, is taking head injuries any more seriously than they ever have. It sure looks like lip service to me, and that is simply ****ing criminal and typical corporate behavior.