Phil Kessel Discussion Thread. (no goals as of Feb 4, 2013)

[AuGsY]

Kessel makes more than Lupul. Currently, Kessel makes 5.4 per season, Lupul 4.25. Next season, Kessel still makes more(though just marginally) as Lupuls deal increases to 5.25

Lupul at 5.25 is a pretty decent deal for the Leafs, I can't see why everyone is so skeptical of this signing. IMO he offers more to this team than Kessel does, and compared to grabo at 5.5, its a hell of a good deal.

 

[Durrrrrr]

The team has finished 2nd, 9th, 5th and appear to be well on their way to another bottom 10 finish with PHIL KESSEL as the only commodity. In 4 years we have yet to find him anyone of significance to play with - because we simply cannot attract QUALITY UFA's - and we cannot AFFORD to trade anymore assets in a desperate attempt to help facilitate ONE PLAYER.

On top of that we have arguably the worst Goaltending tandem in game.
We have arguably one of the worst Defence Cores
We have no leadership - anywhere
Our Top6 is so small and easy to play against its a miracle we can score any goals at all.
Thanks in large part to the acquisition of PHIL KESSEL himself

And to top it all off PHIL KESSEL hasn't scored in 15 games.



The only thing "Magical" about any of this is that he's still a member of the team.

That Tavares guy must suck too, same with that giant loser Nash

 

[7even]

That Tavares guy must suck too, same with that giant loser Nash

You can't win games with Tavares as your best player.

He's a good secondary scoring option.

He wouldn't offer much in the playoffs, if he could even lead them there in the first place.

Derp.

 

[Durrrrrr]

You can't win games with Tavares as your best player.

He's a good secondary scoring option.

He wouldn't offer much in the playoffs, if he could even lead them there in the first place.

Derp.

Trade his ass!

 

[DD03]

Look at Phil huffing and puffing in the penalty box! Curse that chubby character!

 

[Gobias Industries]

Needless comparisons to Nash and Tavares...good times...

 

[dirk41]

You can't win games with Tavares as your best player.

He's a good secondary scoring option.

He wouldn't offer much in the playoffs, if he could even lead them there in the first place.

Derp.

Tavares has played three seasons--his first three season--for, arguably, the worst run franchise in the NHL, a franchise with fewer resources than the Leafs.

 

[DD03]

Kessel at the end of a shift, finds a way to break up a play defensively, skate all the way back to the other blue line and find a man wide open. Definitely out of shape.

 

[Durrrrrr]

Needless comparisons to Nash and Tavares...good times...

Oh! I know this one
Exceptions not the rule... right?

 

[Gobias Industries]

Oh! I know this one
Exceptions not the rule... right?

Do you like making fun of logic?

So Kessel is Nash and Tavares, and a bag of pucks can regularly be traded for value, this is what I've learned from you.

I even agreed with your point earlier about not judging players by what they were traded for, you make some good points.

 

[Faltorvo]

Phaneuf
Lupul
Grabo

Three guys higher paid than Kessel

I agree however that Phaneuf needs to step up. 10 games played and one assist to show for it? Really is starting to hamper the team. His defensive play on a good night is sound but we need his offensive skills just as much.

Actually Lups is not and that won't change when his new contract kicks in either.

Err, pretty sure i listed Dion as players to be looked at.

 

[buntek]

Kessel is useless.

 

[Durrrrrr]

Do you like making fun of logic?

So Kessel is Nash and Tavares, and a bag of pucks can regularly be traded for value, this is what I've learned from you.

I even agreed with your point earlier about not judging players by what they were traded for, you make some good points.

Kessel is no more Tavares and Nash as Toronto will never win with Kessel in the lineup.
Value is everywhere and can even be found for free.
It does not have to happen regularly for it to be possible and it's this possibility that compels me to logically not ignore it's existence because it runs counter to my latest opinion.

 

[buntek]

Lupul scores before Kessel this year....

 

[Gobias Industries]

Kessel is no more Tavares and Nash as Toronto will never win with Kessel in the lineup.
Value is everywhere and can even be found for free.
It does not have to happen regularly for it to be possible and it's this possibility that compels me to logically not ignore it's existence because it runs counter to my latest opinion.

Perfect, so we'll have stupidity and sarcasm on this board and nothing else.

Man you're clearly intelligent, maybe you could step up the enlightenment to more than every second post?

 

[New Liskeard]

Needless comparisons to Nash and Tavares...good times...

Needless Bruins fan coiming to the Leaf board, and into a Kessel thread, to stir the pot.

 

[Durrrrrr]

Perfect, so we'll have stupidity and sarcasm on this board and nothing else.

Man you're clearly intelligent, maybe you could step up the enlightenment to more than every second post?

I gauge the quality of the post and provide an appropriate response.

 

[Gobias Industries]

Needless Bruins fan coiming to the Leaf board, and into a Kessel thread, to stir the pot.

Yep, can't like both teams. I've been on this board for years and live five minutes from the ACC. Tonight's the first home game I've missed actually, any chance you please judge me by the content of my posts?

How exactly am I stirring the pot anyway? By saying that I don't think Kessel is comparable to Nash and Tavares?

I even defended Kessel several times in this thread.

 

[The Apologist]

Yep, can't like both teams. I've been on this board for years and live five minutes from the ACC, can you please judge me by the content of my posts?

How exactly am I stirring the pot? By saying that I don't think Kessel is comparable to Nash and Tavares?

I even defended Kessel several times in this thread.

How is he not comparae to Nash? You know what's funny? Last season I mentioned that Kessel was following a very similar career path to Nash. I even mentioned that IMHO, it would be Kessel's coming out party. I was almost laughed off HFBOARDS. Guess what happened?

They are very similar players. I think Phil is a 30-40 goal 70-90 pt player year in and year out.

 

[The Apologist]

Kessel at the end of a shift, finds a way to break up a play defensively, skate all the way back to the other blue line and find a man wide open. Definitely out of shape.

Nah he probably quit on the play, too busy admiring his own chipmunk cheeks.

 

[Spanks]

Does anybody know what the record is for most consecutive shots without a goal? Kessel may be pushing it...
Feel bad for the guy - this big a slump can't be good for his confidence, especially with the negativity of leaf's fans.

 

[Gobias Industries]

How is he not comparae to Nash? You know what's funny? Last season I mentioned that Kessel was following a very similar career path to Nash. I even mentioned that IMHO, it would be Kessel's coming out party. I was almost laughed off HFBOARDS. Guess what happened?

They are very similar players. I think Phil is a 30-40 goal 70-90 pt player year in and year out.

Yeah, I agree, there can be some comparisons to Nash. I think I've just seen him look dominant with NYR, his size is so much more desirable, and his reputation in CBJ precedes him (how much of that was earned, not sure, never watched the Jackets to be honest).

But I agree, Kessel probably isn't that far off from a production standpoint.

Tavares, no.

 

[Mess]

This thread has reached its limit and will be closed.

Kessel goalless streak can be discussed in a new thread.