Confirmed with Link: [PHI/WPG] Kevin Hayes UFA rights for a 2019 5th

[SnS]

Friedman on 31 thoughts pod (best pod ever) - paraphrase

"Hayes was looking for at least 5 x 5.5...this is where we are starting at...price may go up if teams are interested"

Marek on 31 thoughts pod

"if I'm Nolan Patrick I'm thinking uh-oh, 2c is my spot"

Friedman "there has been rumblings about moving him"

"Fletcher told me, 20 year old centers are hard to come by. If we deal him, it will be from the position of and you're gonna see the deal and you're gonna understand it"

"They'll see whats out there"


Friedman on Comcast
"they are impatient. First round pick is in play"

Exactly.

Impatience is horrible. Sigh. This is going to be a roller coaster.

 

[Beef Invictus]

So basically we won't trade Patrick unless someone makes us do it.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Dave Scott adds more fuel to my wish of Comcast’s demise.

 

[Chinatown88]

Oh goodness gracious that does not sound good. Please somebody tell me everything will be fine.

 

[SnS]

Dave Scott adds more fuel to my wish of Comcast’s demise.

Yeah. It’s ridiculous.

So basically we won't trade Patrick unless someone makes us do it.

I’m not as against trading Patrick as others. But it has to be the right deal, or it can kick us in the dick.

 

[SnS]

Oh goodness gracious that does not sound good. Please somebody tell me everything will be fine.

Wish I could, China.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Oh goodness gracious that does not sound good. Please somebody tell me everything will be fine.

We are Flyers fans, when is the last time everything was fine?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

That's less than I expected Hayes to want.

Dave Scott adds more fuel to my wish of Comcast’s demise.

This is how I'm going to deal with the pain. Macho Man everything.

 

[Chinatown88]

We are Flyers fans, when is the last time everything was fine?

When beet farmer got fired?

 

[Peacekeeper]

Gonna trade Patrick for Trouba and #11 for Nylander

Lol

 

[SnS]

Gonna trade Patrick for Trouba and #11 for Nylander

Lol

Stop it.

I mean, I wouldn’t totally hate the 11 for nylander. But I also doubt Toronto touches that.

 

[Peacekeeper]

Stop it.

I mean, I wouldn’t totally hate the 11 for nylander. But I also doubt Toronto touches that.

I'd be meh until I see him play. Seems to be nice and flashy but then takes plays off and is 'soft'

Comcast and new owner sound like they want huge drastic changes... It could be pretty crazy

 

[Beef Invictus]

When beet farmer got fired?

Yeah, but we had Gordon as the heir apparent. Or even Lappy. So while things were better, they weren't fine.

 

[rinaldo]

Hayes is gonna go the free agent route to see whats out there.

 

[SnS]

I'd be meh until I see him play. Seems to be nice and flashy but then takes plays off and is 'soft'

Comcast and new owner sound like they want huge drastic changes... It could be pretty crazy

I’ve personally thought we’re going to be moving the 11th since that’s what we got. So I wouldn’t be shocked at all to see it moved.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

What did I just read? He had two good centers, an amazing C prospect, a flawed young defenseman, and a good winger? Forsberg’s corpse, an OK Pitkanen (but he was a high pick!) and Umberger? And he worked his way to #2 overall in one of the weakest drafts in the past 20 years?

The Flyers had no farm system, no goaltending, no defense (aside from the statues Clarke had just signed), and no real forward depth. Look at the roster and prospect pool in October 2006, it was garbage. He had some forward pieces to work with, but he basically had to build an entire NHL team around them and he did that. He did not rebuild the prospect pool well, but it’s difficult to do both at the sane time, and he transitioned to restocking way too late/never after he’d completed the NHL team.

Saying he walked into a good situation is almost revisionist history, and the “good cap management” before him is a laugh. The league had had a cap for barely a year! The ceiling was like $400!

You’re discounting how fertile the situation was when Holmgren took over to an insane degree.

How many GMs take over with 21 y/o centers of Carter & Richards’ caliber?; plus a 19 y/o center Giroux’s caliber; plus a 26 y/o 41 goal scorer (Gagne); plus a 22 yr old 4th overall defenseman coming off 2 40+ pt seasons (your attempt to act like Pitkanen wasn’t considered a blue chip young D with tons of trade value is what is disingenuously “revisionist” here; plus an all-time great center with huge deadline trade value (Forsberg); plus the #2 overall pick (you’re unfairly acting like an 18 y/o JVR (who is now a $7M player) isn’t a good asset); PLUS the money to sign Timonen, Briere, Hartnell & Biron ????

And you think that’s “morbid”??? That’s an existing framework for one of the best young cores in the league.

 

[Psuhockey]

Hayes is gonna go the free agent route to see whats out there.

If you don’t think his agent has already spoken to teams and knows what’s out there waiting for him, you are naive. Tampering is rampant. Teams, probably including the Flyers, have already reached out to his agent. They might not have talked specific numbers but probably ballpark figures.

 

[rinaldo]

If you don’t think his agent has already spoken to teams and knows what’s out there waiting for him, you are naive. Tampering is rampant. Teams, probably including the Flyers, have already reached out to his agent. They might not have talked specific numbers but probably ballpark figures.

thanks for the insight

 

[FlyerNutter]

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Hayes is gonna go the free agent route to see whats out there.

Hamhuis 2.0?

 

[Magua]

I’m fascinated to see the reaction if Hayes doesn’t sign.

 

[Curufinwe]

I’m fascinated to see the reaction if Hayes doesn’t sign.

I think it would be the more fun outcome for this board, so I'm rooting for him not to sign.

 

[Adtar02]

Thats great. Lets see what happens. We need big trades and a different look anyway.

No we don’t. We need competent coaching and goal tending

 

[deadhead]

Then I'd turn around and give Brassard a one year "show me" deal to buy time for Patrick, Frost and Rubtsov.
This idea that we have to add a 2C is absurd, just some short-term depth to buy time for the kids in LHV to grow up.

 

[Starat327]

I’m fascinated to see the reaction if Hayes doesn’t sign.

Fletcher is a terrible GM, running around wasting picks!

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I’m fascinated to see the reaction if Hayes doesn’t sign.

From the fans or Dave Scott/Homer?