Hope it works out for him, and the Blues.
Do you have any wingers who are good at faceoffs?
Confirmed Trade: [PHI/STL] Brayden Schenn to Blues for Lehtera, the 27th pick and a future 1st rounder
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Hope it works out for him, and the Blues.
Do you have any wingers who are good at faceoffs?
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When I say Schenn's not as good even strength I mean it more defensively and positionly. He's not consistent with really playing physical either IMO. Schenn is also known to make some brain farts. You're getting a good player though. As a Flyers fan a player I'd say a lot of the time he reminds me of someone like Scott Hartnell. If he puts it together to he can be a similar player to Oshie. I don't think he'll ever be as good of a 2 way player as Oshie because he just seems to lack that awareness. Still 50-60 points is very valuable and if he brings that physicality at least in the playoffs it's a bonus.
I'm not surprised if they try him at center. Worth a shot from their shoes. We tried him there a few times and it didn't work but maybe he finds some chemistry in STL. Good luck to Schenn.
I'm not surprised if they try him at center. Worth a shot from their shoes. We tried him there a few times and it didn't work but maybe he finds some chemistry in STL. Good luck to Schenn.
I did. Hell, Tarasenko especially is just marvellous doing blue collar work in the corners and in traffic.FWIW you basically just described Schwartz
If Schenn can handle playing C between Schwartz & Tarasenko, then great! If not, slide him down to 2RW and let Fabbri & Stastny create chances for him to bury. Can't wait to see how Schenn fits into the Blues' line up.
However, I'm a bit finicky when it comes to handedness. A bunch of left shooters on a line, hmm...
Either way, one thing the Blues do probably better than the entire is league is not forcing the play from the back end. What we're essentially seeing Schenn being given all the opportunities to be that pivot.
Now that I've thought about it, there is a chance that he can end up developing into that 70 point first line center you've been looking for. I'll be interesting to see how things develop in St Louis.
First, all this arguing over a trade where both teams made out well is stupid.
Secondly, the argument that Schenn isn't vastly better on the PP than ES is also stupid. The teams best scorers are all vastly better on the PP than ES which includes Giroux and Voracek. The team has also struggled to produce offensively at ES for a long while, sometimes struggling to produce offensively at all (which is what you get when almost all your scoring forwards rely on PP production). Schenn is as much a reason for that as anybody. If you think that's a fals narrative to justify the trade then feel free to review the Flyers board where we've been complaining and arguing about his scoring consistency and ES potency for years. Hell, we have a poll that's been up long before this trade asking if Schenn is a core player, to which the majority said no.
Secondly, the argument that Schenn isn't vastly better on the PP than ES is also stupid. The teams best scorers are all vastly better on the PP than ES which includes Giroux and Voracek. The team has also struggled to produce offensively at ES for a long while, sometimes struggling to produce offensively at all (which is what you get when almost all your scoring forwards rely on PP production). Schenn is as much a reason for that as anybody. If you think that's a fals narrative to justify the trade then feel free to review the Flyers board where we've been complaining and arguing about his scoring consistency and ES potency for years. Hell, we have a poll that's been up long before this trade asking if Schenn is a core player, to which the majority said no.
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A lot of our wingers are very good 2-way guys that have either played center or can play center in a pinch. To vary degrees of effectiveness at center, Schenn will probably have Steen, Schwartz, Sobotka, Barbashev, or Berglund as one of his linemates with Tarasenko as the other. Most like Steen or Schwartz with Sobotka being a possibility. Faceoff and defensive responsibilities can be shared if need be and he'll get prime offensive minutes.
If it doesn't work, he moves to 2nd line RW and he still fills a position of need.
If it doesn't work, he moves to 2nd line RW and he still fills a position of need.
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Everything I've read makes him seem like a less defensively sound Backes. The Blues are a generally responsible two-way team top-to-bottom, so I think if he can give them some more sandpaper in the Top 6 and provide a good net-front presence on the powerplay it'll work fine.
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Schenn isn't exactly a net front presence. He played the center of the diamond on the Flyers PP. Aka Hartnell's old spot.
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I will continue to predict the 25 year old Schenn shines in St Louis and finally lives up to his pre-NHL hype.
Last year the best guy the Blues had for that was Perron... so yeah... bar isn't exactly high.
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Flyers continuing the trend of trading away their developed players before they hit their prime.
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He's not a net front presence in the traditional sense of a big guy who sets up in the crease in front of the goalie, a la Wayne Simmonds. However, he does all of his best work from the dots in and he's very good around the net.
Tank and Schwartz always seem to be paired together. I think they'll try Schenn on 1st line C, but I don/t think he sticks. I really wanna see Fabbri/Barbashev/Schenn, though. Or even Sobotka centering. He's less skilled than Barbashev, but more productive and probably a little bit better shot. So in a way, I hope the Schenn center experiment fails. But also, considering what Flyers fans have said seemingly unanimously, it has a pretty good chance of happening.
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Only 17 posts since 2012, impressive.
Also love the user handle name.
We need to promote some young guys and with Patrick just drafted Schenn didn't 'fit'
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Who else is part of this trend? JVR and Bob? Two players is not really a trend.
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I know you aren't really debating the point but he said the trend was to deal away players before their prime and there's no questioning the fact that both of those guys had their prime seasons in Philly.
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I wouldn't argue that, sure. Richie fell off a cliff almost immediately. Carter was probably still in his prime for a few years, but definitely not traded before their primes.
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If Schwartz-Tarasenko can carry a 20 point player in Lehtera to 44 points I could totally see if they all stuck together all year Schenn and Schwartz getting 60-65+ and Tarasenko getting 80-85+. Schenn is a much better player than Lehtera.
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