Trade: [PHI/DET] Michael Lorenzen for Hao-Yu Lee

GKJ

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Question is whether or not they still fit Christopher Sanchez into the rotation at all and spread out Wheeler and Nola's starts so they don't wear down late in the year. Sanchez really settled the 5th starter spot after it had been a disaster spot for the first few months, and had a no hitter going the other day.
 

shadow1

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From a Tigers perspective, the return seems OK but nothing outstanding.

The reports on Lee seem to indicate he is most likely a super utility player in the long run, but who knows.

All-in-all the Tigers traded (2) All-Star pitchers to the Phillies in exchange for Lee, Maton, Sands, and Vierling. Pretty underwhelming.
 
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Marc the Habs Fan

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What a trade that turned out to be, eh?

I wonder if that's the record for quickest no-hitter pitched with a new team. :laugh:
It appears there are a few competitors for this:

Rookie no-hitters[​

Twenty-five MLB rookies have pitched a no-hitter since 1901. Four pitchers have thrown a no-hitter in their first major league start; two others have done it in their second major league starts.[22]

Bumpus Jones of the Cincinnati Reds threw a no-hitter on October 15, 1892, in his first major league game. Jones pitched only eight games in the big leagues, finishing with a career win–loss record of 2–4 and a career earned run average of 7.99.

Ted Breitenstein pitched a no-hitter in his first major league start on October 4, 1891; however, it was not his first major league game.[23] He later threw a second no-hitter on April 22, 1898.

On May 6, 1953, Bobo Holloman pitched a no-hitter for the St. Louis Browns in his first major league start (also not his first major league game). This game would prove to be one of only three major league wins that Holloman achieved, against seven losses, all in 1953. Bill Veeck, then-owner of the Browns, in his autobiography described the 27 outs of Holloman's no-hitter as consisting of hard-hit ground balls, screaming line drives, and deep fly balls.

On August 14, 2021, Tyler Gilbert of the Arizona Diamondbacks pitched a no-hitter against the San Diego Padres in his first major league start and fourth appearance. His first major league game came just 11 days before his no-hitter.

At the other end of the spectrum, there are nine 300-game winnersGrover Cleveland Alexander, Kid Nichols, Lefty Grove, Early Wynn, Steve Carlton, Don Sutton, Greg Maddux, Roger Clemens and Tom Glavine—who failed to pitch a no-hitter.

On August 11, 1991, Wilson Álvarez of the Chicago White Sox pitched a no-hitter in his second career major league start. During Alvarez's first career start, he had allowed three runs on a pair of home runs and did not retire a single batter. Unlike Jones and Holloman, Alvarez went on to win 102 games over a 16-year career.

Clay Buchholz pitched a no-hitter for the Boston Red Sox in his second major league start on September 1, 2007, at Fenway Park. The game ended in a 10–0 victory for the Red Sox over the Baltimore Orioles.
 
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GKJ

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The Tigers claimed Andrew Vazquez from the Phillies too so that’s basically part of it.
 

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