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Lehigh Valley Phantoms 2019-20 Home and Away Schedule

Phantoms Announce 2019-20 Regular Season Schedule - Lehigh Valley Phantoms
*All times are Lehigh Valley times, Home games in bold*
Regular Season
Saturday, October 5, 2019 (7:05) Providence Bruins — OPENING NIGHT!
Friday, October 11, 2019 (7:05) Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Saturday, October 12, 2019 (7:05) Hershey Bears
Friday, October 18, 2019 (7:05) Binghamton Devils
Saturday, October 19, 2019 (7:05) Springfield Thunderbirds

Friday, October 25, 2019 (7:00) at Charlotte Checkers
Saturday, October 26, 2019 (6:00) at Charlotte Checkers

Friday, November 1, 2019 (7:05) Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins

Saturday, November 2, 2019 (7:00) at Bridgeport Sound Tigers
Sunday, November 3, 2019 (5:00) at Bridgeport Sound Tigers
Wednesday, November 6, 2019 (7:05) Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Saturday, November 9, 2019 (7:05) Hershey Bears

Sunday, November 10, 2019 (5:00) at Hershey Bears
Wednesday, November 13, 2019 (10:35AM) at Springfield Thunderbirds
Friday, November 15, 2019 (7:05) at Binghamton Devils
Saturday, November 16, 2019 (7:05) at Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 (7:05) Charlotte Checkers
Friday, November 22, 2019 (7:05) Charlotte Checkers
Saturday, November 23, 2019 (7:05) Belleville Senators

Wednesday, November 27, 2019 (7:05) at Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Friday, November 29, 2019 (7:05) Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Saturday, November 30, 2019 (7:05) Hartford Wolf Pack

Wednesday, December 4, 2019 (7:05) at Springfield Thunderbirds
Friday, December 6, 2019 (7:05) Hershey Bears
Saturday, December 7, 2019 (7:00) at Hershey Bears
Friday, December 13, 2019 (7:15) at Hartford Wolf Pack
Saturday, December 14, 2019 (7:05) Hartford Wolf Pack
Sunday, December 15, 2019 (5:00) at Hershey Bears
Saturday, December 21, 2019 (6:00) at Charlotte Checkers
Sunday, December 22, 2019 (1:00) at Charlotte Checkers
Friday, December 27, 2019 (7:05) at Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Saturday, December 28, 2019 (7:05) Utica Comets
Sunday, December 29, 2019 (3:05) Hershey Bears

Friday, January 3, 2020 (7:30) at Laval Rocket
Saturday, January 4, 2020 (7:00) at Belleville Senators
Sunday, January 5, 2020 (4:00) at Toronto Marlies
Friday, January 10, 2020 (7:00) at Utica Comets
Saturday, January 11, 2020 (7:05) Laval Rocket
Sunday, January 12, 2020 (3:05) Cleveland Monsters
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 (7:05) Syracuse Crunch
Friday, January 17, 2020 (7:05) Binghamton Devils
Saturday, January 18, 2020 (7:05) Rochester Americans

Wednesday, January 22, 2020 (6:05) at Providence Bruins
Friday, January 24, 2020 (7:05) at Providence Bruins
Saturday, January 25, 2020 (7:00) at Hartford Wolf Pack
Friday, January 31, 2020 (7:05) at Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins

Saturday, February 1, 2020 (7:00) at Hershey Bears
Friday, February 7, 2020 (7:05) Springfield Thunderbirds
Saturday, February 8, 2020 (7:05) at Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Sunday, February 9, 2020 (3:05) Hershey Bears
Friday, February 14, 2020 (7:05) Bridgeport Sound Tigers
Saturday, February 15, 2020 (7:05) Hartford Wolf Pack

Sunday, February 16, 2020 (5:00) at Hershey Bears
Wednesday, February 19, 2020 (7:00) at Bridgeport Sound Tigers
Friday, February 21, 2020 (7:05) at Rochester Americans
Saturday, February 22, 2020 (7:00) at Syracuse Crunch
Friday, February 28, 2020 (7:05) Charlotte Checkers
Saturday, February 29, 2020 (7:05) Charlotte Checkers

Friday, March 6, 2020 (7:05) Bridgeport Sound Tigers

Saturday, March 7, 2020 (4:05) at Binghamton Devils
Sunday, March 8, 2020 (3:05) Bridgeport Sound Tigers
Wednesday, March 11, 2020 (7:05) Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Friday, March 13, 2020 (7:05) Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Saturday March 14, 2020 (7:05) Toronto Marlies

Wednesday, March 18, 2020 (7:05) at Binghamton Devils
Friday, March 20, 2020 (7:05) Hershey Bears
Saturday, March 21, 2020 (7:05) Cleveland Monsters

Wednesday, March 25, 2020 (7:00) at Hershey Bears
Saturday, March 28, 2020 (8:00) at Cleveland Monsters
Sunday, March 29, 2020 (3:00) at Cleveland Monsters

Friday, April 3, 2020 (7:05) Providence Bruins
Saturday, April 4, 2020 (7:05) Providence Bruins

Sunday, April 5, 2020 (3:05) at Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins
Wednesday, April 8, 2020 (7:05) Binghamton Devils
Friday, April 10, 2020 (7:15) at Hartford Wolf Pack
Saturday, April 11, 2020 (7:05) at Providence Bruins

NHL Affiliations for Opponents of Lehigh Valley Phantoms (Philadelphia Flyers)

Belleville (Ottawa Senators)
Binghamton (New Jersey Devils)
Bridgeport (New York Islanders)
Charlotte (Carolina Hurricanes)
Cleveland (Columbus Blue Jackets)
Hartford (New York Rangers)
Hershey (Washington Capitals)
Laval (Montreal Canadiens)
Providence (Boston Bruins)
Rochester (Buffalo Sabres)
Springfield (Florida Panthers)
Syracuse (Tampa Bay Lightning)
Toronto (Toronto Maple Leafs)
Utica (Vancouver Canucks)
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton (Pittsburgh Penguins)

Schedule Breakdown

By Opponents (Home/Away)
Atlantic Division – 54 (27/27)

Bridgeport – 6 (3/3)
Charlotte – 8 (4/4)
Hartford – 6 (3/3)
Hershey – 12 (6/6)
Providence – 6 (3/3)
Springfield – 4 (2/2)
W-B/Scranton – 12 (6/6)
North Division – 22 (11/11)
Belleville – 2 (1/1)
Binghamton – 6 (3/3)
Cleveland – 4 (2/2)
Laval – 2 (1/1)
Rochester – 2 (1/1)
Syracuse – 2 (1/1)
Toronto – 2 (1/1)
Utica – 2 (1/1)
By Day (Home/Away)
Friday – 24 (14/10)
Saturday – 28 (15/13)
Sunday – 12 (4/8)
Monday – 0 (0/0)
Tuesday – 0 (0/0)
Wednesday – 12 (5/7)
Thursday – 0 (0/0)
By Month (Home/Away)
October – 7 (5/2)
November – 15 (8/7)
December – 11 (4/7)
January – 13 (5/8)
February – 12 (6/6)
March – 12 (7/5)
April – 6 (3/3)

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CanadianFlyer88

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Such a weird stand to take, @Striiker.

Frost could be hurt or he could not.

The actions of the team by holding him out of preseason games suggests the former. You are on some strange crusade to ignore this. Almost seems like an excuse to fit your narrative that management is incompetent.

Groin issues are one of the worst common ailments in sports. If Frost is still feeling effects of his groin strain, I am fully supportive of him sitting until he feels ready to go.

But I guess since he was medically cleared and was able to be sent down to the Phantoms there isn't even the slightest chance that his groin isn't 100%. :shakehead
 

Striiker

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Such a weird stand to take, @Striiker.

Frost could be hurt or he could not.

The actions of the team by holding him out of preseason games suggests the former. You are on some strange crusade to ignore this. Almost seems like an excuse to fit your narrative that management is incompetent.

Groin issues are one of the worst common ailments in sports. If Frost is still feeling effects of his groin strain, I am fully supportive of him sitting until he feels ready to go.

But I guess since he was medically cleared and was able to be sent down to the Phantoms there isn't even the slightest chance that his groin isn't 100%. :shakehead

A weird stand to take? That we assume the only information we know for sure - that he was medically cleared and sent down - is accurate until there's a real reason to suggest otherwise?

The actions of the team COULD suggest otherwise, but we also know for a fact that healthy players get held out of preseason games too. So, until we know for sure which option it is, I'll go ahead and fall back to what we do know for sure: Frost was medically cleared. Sitting out of a preseason AHL game isn't convincing enough.

As I said before, if he gets held out of a regular season game then we'll have a valid reason to believe he's not healthy enough to play and I'll agree that he's not currently a viable option to be in the NHL lineup.
 

CanadianFlyer88

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He only played 2 preseason games in the whole camp, fewer than everyone else that will be a regular on the Flyers or Phantoms.

You don't sit out of game action for two weeks if you're healthy. There's a logical leap to take here. Even if he doesn't miss a regular season game it does not confirm he was healthy the whole time. I would certainly suggest there is evidence to suggest he not 100% due to his preseason usage.

Medically cleared does not equal fit to play. There is always room to wiggle there.
 
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He only played 2 preseason games in the whole camp, less than everyone else that will be a regular on the Flyers or Phantoms.

You don't sit out of game action for two weeks if you're healthy. There's a logical leap to take here. Even if he doesn't miss a regular season game it does not confirm he was healthy the whole time. I would certainly suggest there is evidence to suggest he not 100% due to his preseason usage.

Medically cleared does not equal fit to play. There is always room to wiggle there.
Who said he was healthy for two weeks? Who said he was never hurt?

He was hurt at one point... but that doesn't mean he's still hurt RIGHT NOW. Just like sitting out of a meaningless preseason game doesn't automatically means he's hurt.

I REPEAT: If he sits out of the first regular season game, then I'll believe that he's currently hurt. If he plays, I'll believe that he's currently healthy.
 

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Actually...Frost is a fast healer.

Sept 23rd: Flyers announce Frost will be out 5-7 days
Sept 27th: Flyers demote Frost

So Frost must have gotten healthy in 4 days then they just decided to not play him in either game while healthy forcing others to play both of them. Who cares about not playing a game from Sept 22rd to Oct 4th. Guess they felt he earned a 13 day break from games. After all, preseason doesn't matter.

;)
 

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Actually...Frost is a fast healer.

Sept 23rd: Flyers announce Frost will be out 5-7 days
Sept 27th: Flyers demote Frost

So Frost must have gotten healthy in 4 days then they just decided to not play him in either game while healthy forcing others to play both of them. Who cares about not playing a game from Sept 22rd to Oct 4th. Guess they felt he earned a 13 day break from games. After all, preseason doesn't matter.

;)

But what really does matter with this team? It has been the pre-season, which doesn't officially matter. Then the first game won't because it is in Europe. We know by history that first periods don't matter to this team. The first week won't matter because of roster changes and getting used to Vigneault's system. The first home loss will matter a bit, but something something something. Come March, the games won't really matter for the standings.

Sigh.
 

Striiker

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Actually...Frost is a fast healer.

Sept 23rd: Flyers announce Frost will be out 5-7 days
Sept 27th: Flyers demote Frost

So Frost must have gotten healthy in 4 days then they just decided to not play him in either game while healthy forcing others to play both of them. Who cares about not playing a game from Sept 22rd to Oct 4th. Guess they felt he earned a 13 day break from games. After all, preseason doesn't matter.

;)
As we all know, those injury timelines are set in stone! ;)

5-7 days and better in 4? UNHEARD OF.

Bad conditional logic there. :laugh:

I don't know why I got into this a few days ago. :laugh:
I have no clue how you can attempt to disagree with that. :laugh:

Unless you think they’d sit him for the first regular season game while healthy or play him while injured? No reason to believe that's the case.





You two have lost your minds.
 
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But what really does matter with this team? It has been the pre-season, which doesn't officially matter. Then the first game won't because it is in Europe. We know by history that first periods don't matter to this team. The first week won't matter because of roster changes and getting used to Vigneault's system. The first home loss will matter a bit, but something something something. Come March, the games won't really matter for the standings.

Sigh.

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CanadianFlyer88

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I have no clue how you can attempt to disagree with that. :laugh:

Unless you think they’d sit him for the first regular season game while healthy or play him while injured?
Him playing the first regular season game doesn't mean he didn't feel well enough to play today.

Him not playing the first regular season game doesn't mean he was hurt today. If he is healthy, he could reaggravate the groin between now and then.

So your equating today's status to his status in game one doesn't necessarily jive. Therefore, bad conditional logic. ;)
 

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Him playing the first regular season game doesn't mean he didn't feel well enough to play today.

Him not playing the first regular season game doesn't mean he was hurt today. If he is healthy, he could reaggravate the groin between now and then.

So your equating today's status to his status in game one doesn't necessarily jive. Therefore, bad conditional logic. ;)

Ooops, I see what caused the mix-up. I misread the Phantoms schedule so I thought the first game was October 2nd. That's my bad.

Regardless, as for TODAY, 9/30/19, we should assume he's healthy enough to play, based on the information available to us right now, which is that he was medically cleared, got sent down, and practiced with the team.

It's possible they're wrong, but until there's a more convincing reason than sitting out a meaningless preseason game, the logical move would be to assume that information from the doctors is correct. In other words, "being medically cleared" and "sitting out today" could suggest different things, but the former is more convincing since the latter can happen even if healthy.
 

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So what this basically boils down to is:

-The team doctors say Frost is cleared to play
-Frost sat out tonights preseason game
-You two believe that him sitting out a preseason game is more telling than that medical clearance from the docs
-I think the medical clearance is more telling than sitting out a AHL preseason game

IF he's healthy, he should be up on the NHL roster. So we just need to wait and see what happens after he's proven to be ready by playing in a regular season game.
 

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If Striiker's healthy we should trade him to the Toronto HF board where he can heckle Hakstol ad nausem. :sarcasm:
 

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So what this basically boils down to is:

-The team doctors say Frost is cleared to play
-Frost sat out tonights preseason game
-You two believe that him sitting out a preseason game is more telling than that medical clearance from the docs
-I think the medical clearance is more telling than sitting out a AHL preseason game

IF he's healthy, he should be up on the NHL roster. So we just need to wait and see what happens after he's proven to be ready by playing in a regular season game.
Except it wasn't just a game. It was BOTH of a b2b while others had to play both. And to my knowledge, he was the only one not to play either game. If he was 100% 3 days ago, there would be no reason to be cautious and give him both games off.....and essentially now having him have 13 days in between games. If 100% healthy, getting up to game speed would be much more important.

It sucks he got hurt twice and could not take advantage of the opportunity due to Patrick being hurt.
 

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Except it wasn't just a game. It was BOTH of a b2b while others had to play both. And to my knowledge, he was the only one not to play either game. If he was 100% 3 days ago, there would be no reason to be cautious and give him both games off.....and essentially now having him have 13 days in between games. If 100% healthy, getting up to game speed would be much more important.

It sucks he got hurt twice and could not take advantage of the opportunity due to Patrick being hurt.
You’re completely ignoring any possibility outside of what you want to be true.

As if it’s impossible that’s he’s healthy and able to play but they also just decided to keep him out for a meaningless B2B. Just to be extra safe with the teams top propect. As if we’ve never seen a healthy player sit in preseason before. As if it’s not even possible. :laugh:

I’m only saying there’s two options, not even guaranteeing either one is true. It’s completely possible he’s currently healthy and ready to play.

And as I said before:
Well there's actually no such thing as being 100%... no doctor or staff could ever accurately know that. At best you reach a point where you feel nothing and the doctors believe you're no longer at risk of re-injury. What we know for sure is that he was healthy enough to be cleared to play by the team doctors, get sent down, and he practiced.
 
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The Phantoms will have to scratch one of first six guys for each game this season.

Of the 18 skaters (not counting two goaltenders) that teams may dress for a game, at least 13 must be qualified as “development players.” Of those 13, 12 must have played in 260 or fewer professional games (including AHL, NHL and European elite leagues), and one must have played in 320 or fewer professional games. All calculations for development status are based on regular-season totals as of the start of the season.
O'Reilly 861 games
Brennan 698
Prosser 481
Andreoff 391
Wotherspoon 385
Carey 326

Gabriel 302

The two guys closest to the 260 cutoff are:

Bigras 225
Aube-Kubel 212
 

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I know this is going to piss you and all the offensive first guys but you know what i see when i watch this . The 2 on 1 going the other way when he misses the net , good hands skill yup, but poor decision making when you already have three guys deep and now you are caught cause you missed the net and are way to deep as well .

Should have shot after he beat the first guy and still had positioning defense wise on the other team to not give up the 2 on 1 . It's an issue i have with looking at points when it comes to D men and their readiness . But the hive loves that offense .

There , that should stir a few of ya up . lol
 

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I know this is going to piss you and all the offensive first guys but you know what i see when i watch this . The 2 on 1 going the other way when he misses the net , good hands skill yup, but poor decision making when you already have three guys deep and now you are caught cause you missed the net and are way to deep as well .

Should have shot after he beat the first guy and still had positioning defense wise on the other team to not give up the 2 on 1 . It's an issue i have with looking at points when it comes to D men and their readiness . But the hive loves that offense .

There , that should stir a few of ya up . lol
Don’t quit your day job.
 

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I know this is going to piss you and all the offensive first guys but you know what i see when i watch this . The 2 on 1 going the other way when he misses the net , good hands skill yup, but poor decision making when you already have three guys deep and now you are caught cause you missed the net and are way to deep as well .

Should have shot after he beat the first guy and still had positioning defense wise on the other team to not give up the 2 on 1 . It's an issue i have with looking at points when it comes to D men and their readiness . But the hive loves that offense .

There , that should stir a few of ya up . lol
Holy shit man.

That type of thought process is so flawed it’s making my brain crawl out of my ass.
 
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I know this is going to piss you and all the offensive first guys but you know what i see when i watch this . The 2 on 1 going the other way when he misses the net , good hands skill yup, but poor decision making when you already have three guys deep and now you are caught cause you missed the net and are way to deep as well .

Should have shot after he beat the first guy and still had positioning defense wise on the other team to not give up the 2 on 1 . It's an issue i have with looking at points when it comes to D men and their readiness . But the hive loves that offense .

There , that should stir a few of ya up . lol



Same theoretical outcome is possible if he shoots after he beats the first guy (blocked shots by any of the (7?) skaters in front of the net creates a rebound to the opposition for an odd-man rush.


Referring to a group of people who view the game in a similar light as “the hive” is as condescending as it gets. It’s obnoxious and unnecessary...but you do you I guess
 
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