Phaneuf Signs with Flames
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Oh ya, don't forget the small frame, ineffectiveness in his own end. That also seperates them.Seachd said:
Should I bring up attitude problem? Nah, that will send you off the deep end.
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Umm... You're bringing up size? Boyd's about an inch taller and ten pounds lighter than Schremp. Maybe you thought Schremp was smaller than he actually is? Or that Boyd was bigger?MrMastodonFarm said:Oh ya, don't forget the small frame, ineffectiveness in his own end. That also seperates them.
Should I bring up attitude problem? Nah, that will send you off the deep end.
And I think you meant "attitude problem". I mean, yeah, those players that are first on the ice for practice and the last ones to leave obviously have no dedication to the game at all.
Anyway, I still haven't really heard any examples of these problems, and I doubt you could be the first to do that.
Thought Boyd was bigger, he sure plays like a bigger guy though, its great! Schremp could learn a thing or two about how to do that then.Seachd said:
Nope, I don't know the guy personally so I can't comment on his attitude problem. Can you?Seachd said:
Although, where there is smoke, there is a fire. The attitude problem speculation didn't start as some internet rumour from fark.com, something is behind it. It wasn't fabricated from thin air.
It'll be interesting to see how well Phaneuf does offensively. His junior team really lacked quality forwards for him.
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MrMastodonFarm said:
Well this has gone fairly off track hasn't it
Phaneuf looks like he'll be player, but these prospects rankings change so quickly I wouldn't rely on them too much. For last year's draft the rankings were Cobourn, Phaneuf, Suter, at the draft it went, Suter, Coburn, Phaneuf, and now the "hockey world" says Phaneuf, Suter, Coburn according to you.
I'm pessimistic to say the least.
As for the Flames overall core, they do have potential and some balance, but I can't see them becoming a premier core. If every teams young defeceman pan out, I would give the edge to Phoenix or Florida or Nashville or...
vb said:Well this has gone fairly off track hasn't it
Phaneuf looks like he'll be player, but these prospects rankings change so quickly I wouldn't rely on them too much. For last year's draft the rankings were Cobourn, Phaneuf, Suter, at the draft it went, Suter, Coburn, Phaneuf, and now the "hockey world" says Phaneuf, Suter, Coburn according to you.
I'm pessimistic to say the least.
As for the Flames overall core, they do have potential and some balance, but I can't see them becoming a premier core. If every teams young defeceman pan out, I would give the edge to Phoenix or Florida or Nashville or...
The only thing the Flames core of guys like Leopold and regher are young and have panned out. The NHL is already witnessing their skill and there is no "I wonder" if they will make it in the NHL like many prospects that haven't played in the NHL yet.
Great start for phaneuf, even though it was at the cost of the hitmen.
2 goals, 1 assist on the winner, and first star.
2 goals, 1 assist on the winner, and first star.
chriss_co said:
He was a +1 for the night.
Cant wait to see him in a flames jersey.
Kris Hogg also had a pretty good night, even though the blazers lost. 2a and +1 in his first game.
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one goal in game two........the guy is amazing
If they did the 2003 draft today, he would go number one overall, no doubt
If they did the 2003 draft today, he would go number one overall, no doubt
Seachd said:
Why don't you (along with vb) take off your copper colored glasses and try to stop your blatant bias on this matter. It's pretty obvious the only reason you too are bashing Phaneuf is because he is Flames property.
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How about when he played the rest of the playoffs for more than 20 mins a night?
Did you notice that he has only been in the league for 1 and a half years, and every young player makes mistakes.
Leopold made a mistake. Remember Steve Smith? Quite possibly one of the biggest gaffs of all time, and develloped into a fine player, certainly no slouch. Or what about Patrick Roy, when he dropped the puck out of his glove when he was showboating in game 7 a few years back. The best goalie of all time made mistakes too....
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How did Seachd bash Phaneuf? I don't think it's that far a stretch to say that at least Fleury (and possibly a few more guys) would have still been drafted ahead of Phaneuf. Granted he's had a great start to the season but that doesn't suddenly make him the greatest thing since miracle whip...the-rasta-masta said:
Wow, I know they are oiler fans, but I do agree with the fact that he would not be #1. I personally think he would be a top 4 if the draft was redone.
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Agreed... there is definitely a strong chance that Phaneuf would go in the top 4 if the draft was held again today. It's ironic that a guy with Phaneuf in his name is the one to point this out...XxPhaneufxX said:
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Just curious, who would you have taken? I would have definitely taken a few ahead of Phaneuf but I can't think of many I'd rank ahead of him...Jacobv2 said:
Cerebral said:
I think it honestly depends on the teams need. Such as if Florida was drafted 1st they wouldn't have taken another goalie. They would have most likely taken a top #1 defenseman, etc. Or for the Flames a player like Staal. All I know is the Flames future defense core looks mighty strong with Phaneuf added.
the-rasta-masta said:
Way to overreact buddy. All he said is he wouldn't take him #1 in 2003. I probably wouldn't either. Guys I'd probably take ahead of him are Staal, Horton and Fleury.
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