Pettersson vs Matthews

[winnipegger]

Pettersson has a bigger toolbox. Matthews has that great toe drag wrist shot, but Pettersson makes up for that with a slapshot 1 timer. Vision and playmaking clearly go to Pettersson.

 

[OVO16]

Easily Mathews

 

[Ben White]

Pettersson has a bigger toolbox. Matthews has that great toe drag wrist shot, but Pettersson makes up for that with a slapshot 1 timer. Vision and playmaking clearly go to Pettersson.

You have honestly never seen Pettersson’s toe drag wrister??

 

[ijuka]

Pettersson has a bigger toolbox. Matthews has that great toe drag wrist shot, but Pettersson makes up for that with a slapshot 1 timer. Vision and playmaking clearly go to Pettersson.

Pettersson's shot is better than Matthews's in every category. Matthews just gets his off more often, and from closer to the net. But in a shot to shot comparison, it's Pettersson no contest.

 

[34]

Pettersson's shot is better than Matthews's in every category. Matthews just gets his off more often, and from closer to the net. But in a shot to shot comparison, it's Pettersson no contest.

Say what? Are you kidding?

 

[Regal]

Now I understand what you were saying, however I rather follow actual stats that show Matthews finished tied for 2nd in total goals. So I guess we have to agree to disagree about this.

Yet you don't use these "actual stats" for his other years, because Matthews missed time, and instead use the GPG and PPG stats you're dismissing for his rookie year. You can't pick and choose to make Matthews look better. That was his point.

 

[CP4]

Say what? Are you kidding?

Facts can't be jokes.

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

I'll be completely honest, I like seeing people argue about the leafs, but holy shit, Matthews has proven just a weeee bit more, don't you think?

 

[34]

I'll be completely honest, I like seeing people argue about the leafs, but holy ****, Matthews has proven just a weeee bit more, don't you think?

A lot more than the 46 game sample size.

 

[koyvoo]

Now I understand what you were saying, however I rather follow actual stats that show Matthews finished tied for 2nd in total goals. So I guess we have to agree to disagree about this.

That’s fine. But then it’s have to follow actual stats in all his other seasons. Not “pace”.

 

[bionic]

Imagine if Pettersson had the type of talent around him, especially on the PP that there is in Toronto.

Imagine if teams had another player to focus on defending when they play Vancouver as there is in Toronto. Pettersson is the absolute singular point of focus for other teams defending. Imagine if he had another C as good as Tavares to take some of that focus off of him. Imagine if Pettersson had that crisp early outlet pass that Rielly provides instead of constantly having to come back so deep and starting the plays himself.

Leafs finished buck naked last the year they drafted Matthews. They were not a stacked team yet he went on to score 40 goals and make the playoffs the year they drafted him.

 

[koyvoo]

Leafs finished buck naked last the year they drafted Matthews. They were not a stacked team yet he went on to score 40 goals and make the playoffs the year they drafted him.

That team already had five 60+ point players. It didn’t take teams long to realize they’d have to focus their defending on 2 lines, not 1. Right now every opposing team focus their defending fully and totally on Pettersson.

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

Pettersson is shooting 25%, averages 1:30 more on the PP per game, and has had better 5v5 linemates this season yet is blowing out this poll? This is peak HF.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Pettersson every day of the week.

 

[koyvoo]

The only visible skill I’d give Matthews is the way he receives a pass and the quickness of his release. Not even sure about release in general, but Matthews is already shooting virtually before he receives the pass. The quickness of release upon receiving a pass. That and being bigger, although he doesn’t really use his size, he’s probably harder to knock off the puck.

For me everything else is Pettersson. From skating to puck handling to game reading ability to passing to defending.

 

[BayStreetBully]

I stayed up to see what the hype with Petterson was all about. Figured he’d have his way with the last place Ducks. I wasn’t impressed. Certainly not a player worth staying up for.

 

[CanadianPantherFan]

1. Crosby
2. Ovechkin
3. Matthews(by the end of his career with all his rings he will be)

Better than Barky? MaCkinnon ? Etc
Guaranteed rings. Bold.

 

[GodPucker]

100% Pettersson easily IMO

 

[Paul4587]

Pettersson is even more overrated than Matthews. Matthews is a significantly better player and shouldn’t be losing this poll.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

EP no doubt. I dont think there is anyone besides McDavid (and maybe Dahlin), who id rather have for the next 15 years.

When did McDavid and Dahlin end up in the same category?

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Pettersson is even more overrated than Matthews. Matthews is a significantly better player and shouldn’t be losing this poll.

Recency Bias

 

[koyvoo]

I stayed up to see what the hype with Petterson was all about. Figured he’d have his way with the last place Ducks. I wasn’t impressed. Certainly not a player worth staying up for.

Hey, even the oilers looked like world beaters when they first made a coaching change. Ducks played strong.

If it’s actually true that the first time you sat down to watch this kid was in the middle of February, you should give it a another go, just one or two more times.

Imagine if someone watched Matthews got the first time in one o of the last 25 games he’s played, 96% of which he looked varyingly invisible to dog crap? They’re opinion would be what?

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

Hey, even the oilers looked like world beaters when they first made a coaching change. Ducks played strong.

If it’s actually true that the first time you sat down to watch this kid was in the middle of February, you should give it a another go, just one or two more times.

Imagine if someone watched Matthews got the first time in one o of the last 25 games he’s played, 96% of which he looked varyingly invisible to dog crap? They’re opinion would be what?

Matthews has 23 points in his last 25 games.

 

[koyvoo]

Matthews has 23 points in his last 25 games.

If you discard the game on dec 22 (4 pts) which was just before his cold run, and discard the very left game he’s played (3 pts) it looks a lot closer to the level of play he’s displaying since Christmas.

The point is that someone is using one game to make a judgment on a player while ignoring that the vast majority of those games he’s looked like he doesn’t have a pulse?

Are you denying this? All onehad to do is look st the significant number of leaf fans themselves who would agree and their comments on the leafs boards show this.

 

[MNRube]

When did McDavid and Dahlin end up in the same category?

Never said same category. I said Dahlin and McDavid are only young guys who i would consider taking over EP. McDavid would be a no-brainer. Dahlin would be a more difficult choice. Nobody else would merit a 2nd thought for me.

Why is it so hard to see the value of Dahlin? Hes a monster at 18 and the most promising young D in at least a decade IMO. His ceiling is very high.