Petersson-Horvat vs Sedin-Kesler Peak

[Ben White]

He plays with Boeser at even strength a guy that scored at a ~40 goal rate in his rookie year.

Doesn’t matter when the rest is tire fire and horrible possession players. Hank had people actually capable of feeding him the puck, EP doesn’t. EP >> Hank in future rankings.

 

[Addison Rae]

Doesn’t matter when the rest is tire fire and horrible possession players. Hank had people actually capable of feeding him the puck, EP doesn’t. EP >> Hank in future rankings.

Pettersson has been glued to Boeser for the past ~20 games. He also plays with Bo Horvat on the power play, another legitimate front line player in the NHL.

I project Pettersson will have the better career too, doubt he significantly tops Henrik’s peak, if at all.

 

[Phenomenon13]

Topping an art ross and selke winner is really hard.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Tiring hearing people comparing EP’s current situation with other players without taking into considertion the horrible situation offense-wise with this current Canucks roster that EP has to deal with right now. This roster is the most talent less in the entire NHL and EP is carrying it to a possible playoff spot. Let that sink in.

Henrik put up a beastly ES points (80 ) while Daniel missed time, and he was forced to play with Kevin f***ing Bieksa and Burrows as his wingers, and still dominated. Let that sink in.

All the while facing against prime Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin.

I know very well what EP's current situation is, I've been defending him against many users who downplay all the time, but the fact is some of these pro EP statements in this thread are horrendous and nonsensical. It's not a for sure thing that EP will top Sedin's peak season.

 

[Ben White]

Henrik put up a beastly ES points (80 ) while Daniel missed time, and he was forced to play with Kevin ****ing Bieksa and Burrows as his wingers, and still dominated. Let that sink in.

All the while facing against prime Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin.

I know very well what EP's current situation is, I've been defending him against many users who downplay all the time, but the fact is some of these pro EP statements in this thread are horrendous and nonsensical. It's not a for sure thing that EP will top Sedin's peak season.

Fair enough. But I do think the imaginary Pettersson twins would be >>>> the Sedin Twins. Not taking anything away from the Sedins and I know Daniel missed time and all but EP is just in my opinion on a different talent level than Henrik Sedin.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

I desperately want Pettersson-Horvat to end up being better. But from what I've seen so far it is still Sedin-Kesler.

 

[Josepho]

Pettersson and Horvat will likely have more longevity but peak Sedin and especially peak Kesler were ridiculous.

 

[Tony Stacks]

Pettersson and Horvat will likely have more longevity but peak Sedin and especially peak Kesler were ridiculous.

Why "especially" for peak Kesler? Kesler in no point in his career, including peak was anywhere near as good as Henrik.

 

[Josepho]

Why "especially" for peak Kesler? Kesler in no point in his career, including peak was anywhere near as good as Henrik.

I could've phrased that better.

I meant to say/imply that 2009-2011 Kesler was way better than all the other Kesler iterations.

 

[bobbyking]

I was thinking the same thing about your comment.

You've probably been watching hockey for 3 years max

 

[CherryToke]

You've probably been watching hockey for 3 years max

Watched every Sedin game.

 

[lawrence]

1 Pettersson
2 Henrik
3 Horvat
4 Kesler

Pettersson as a 20 year old is better then when Hank actually had his arrival party in 2006. Henrik Sedin produced as a 3rd line player for the first 5 seasons of his career. He did not reach superstar status officially until 2009.
Kesler's relevance came at the start of the 2009 season, previous years he was a bottom 6 scrapper hard nosed player. His arrival came in 2009. Bo Horvats arrival literally came in 2016.

Both Pettersson and Horvat is out producing Hank and Kesler at the same age easily at this point.

Hank has a 111 point season, Kesler was solid for a good 4 years for us, with 2 excellent seasons, Pettersson may not hit 111 points, but if he's around a point per game guy from the get go he will easily outscore Hank.

 

[Regal]

They'll have a hard time matching them at their peaks, but given their development is way ahead of the others at the same age, Pettersson and Horvat should have better primes.

 

[Rowlet]

Pettersson might have a better career but it's really unlikely he surpasses Hank's peak in the same way that 6 or 7 90 point seasons in a row is better than 2 seasons above 90 pts but one of those is a 112 point Art Ross winning season

People saying EP and it ain't close are... confused

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

He's already better at 20..

Riiiight, let me know when Pettersson wins the Ross and Hart in the same season

Also people forget Kesler scored 40 and won the Selke in a season

Sedin > Pettersson
Kesler > Horvat

 

[Pip]

Hank and Kesler pretty easily right now

 

[Ben White]

Pettersson might have a better career but it's really unlikely he surpasses Hank's peak in the same way that 6 or 7 90 point seasons in a row is better than 2 seasons above 90 pts but one of those is a 112 point Art Ross winning season

People saying EP and it ain't close are... confused

Won’t look that confused in a couple of years. EP and Hank are not on the same level skill wise.

 

[Spazkat]

Tiring hearing people comparing EP’s current situation with other players without taking into considertion the horrible situation offense-wise with this current Canucks roster that EP has to deal with right now. This roster is the most talent less in the entire NHL and EP is carrying it to a possible playoff spot. Let that sink in.

That's not the poll though. We know what peak Henrik and Kesler looked like - it's do you think EP and Boeser will reach that.

IMO it's Boeser that sinks the ship here. EP may end up at/near Sedin, but no way Boeser touches peak Kesler. It didn't last long, but peak Kesler was pretty amazing.

 

[Rowlet]

That's not the poll though. We know what peak Henrik and Kesler looked like - it's do you think EP and Boeser will reach that.

IMO it's Boeser that sinks the ship here. EP may end up at/near Sedin, but no way Boeser touches peak Kesler. It didn't last long, but peak Kesler was pretty amazing.

it's Horvat, not Boeser, but you are still correct

 

[Sweetpotato]

Pettersson

Henrick/Horvat
Kessler

This is getting out of control.

 

[Rowlet]

This is getting out of control.

kid's 14, just ignore him, can't even spell the names of two of the Canucks best C's historically

 

[M2Beezy]

kid's 14, just ignore him, can't even spell the names of two of the Canucks best C's historically

I just turned 17, and your the one who follows e sports bub, get a grip

 

[Knight53]

Elias Pettersson for an 82 game season as a rookie would get around 90 points on a team that was projected to be bottom five. That would match Henrik Sedins 2nd best season in his career which was on a Presidents trophy winning team. Elias Pettersson will surpass Henrik Sedins peak very easily. This is a player who will be in contention for the Art Ross, Hart, Selke, Lady Byng trophies throughout his career. Maybe as soon as next year.

As much as I love Horvat, he won't match Kesler's peak unless he has a star winger to play with. Horvat will have the better career though, as he'll get you 60-70 points every year.

Give me Pettersson/Horvat.

The big thing is, EP's and Horvat's Ehrhoff hasn't arrived yet but will very soon.

 

[Horse McHindu]

Will vancouver's new duo beat their previous one?

Fwi, I chose the new duo because I really think horvat could turn into a solid 70pt 2-way center, and peterson's ceiling is insane. Doesn't make me happy as a flames fan (of course the alien scored his first against us), but **** they are good.

While I don’t think EP-Horvat will ever reach the peak of H.Sedin-Kesler 2011, I think the EP-Horvat combo will be deadlier for a much longer period of time.

 

[eviohh26]

Dang. Canuck fans are quick to forget how amazing the prime Sedins were. Pettersson has a way to go.