Player Discussion Peter Cehlarik - III

[ON3M4N]

How’s Heinen steady his season last year on the heels of 47 points was terrible until he got bumped to the first line he was as culpable as Donato. Clearly 3rd best player on the line in the playoffs.

He’s a legit NHLer with offense on a reasonable deal for 2 years. That’s it.

Points isn't the only way a player can "steady"

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

How’s Heinen steady his season last year on the heels of 47 points was terrible until he got bumped to the first line he was as culpable as Donato. Clearly 3rd best player on the line in the playoffs.

He’s a legit NHLer with offense on a reasonable deal for 2 years. That’s it.

So he's a legit NHLer but you didn't include him? What lmao.

 

[Dizzay]

So he's a legit NHLer but you didn't include him? What lmao.

Honestly, I'm far from the hate Heinen club but I'm also far from the Heinen fan boy club! Hes shown offensive abilities in his first 6 months in the NHL then largely has been just fair! I am hoping for big things for him but I label him this far as an unknown and consistently inconsistent

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Honestly, I'm far from the hate Heinen club but I'm also far from the Heinen fan boy club! Hes shown offensive abilities in his first 6 months in the NHL then largely has been just fair! I am hoping for big things for him but I label him this far as an unknown and consistently inconsistent

He's proven to be a player good for at least 35+ points who plays sound two way hockey. He's perfect on a 3rd line if that's all he is. I just don't see how he's an unknown at this point.
He's also shown he can move up and down a lineup and be effective.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

So he's a legit NHLer but you didn't include him? What lmao.

Let’s see how he does this year hopefully the brutal first half of last season was just a speed bump. But if you can use him to get Hall as a rental and not add too much and push the chips in just gotta do it.

I think Bjork is better but he gets hurt every year.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Let’s see how he does this year hopefully the brutal first half of last season was just a speed bump. But if you can use him to get Hall as a rental and not add too much and push the chips in just gotta do it.

I think Bjork is better but he gets hurt every year.

Bjork isn't better until he proves it. How can you think he's better? Lol

 

[BigGoalBrad]

He’s been hurt. Not playing bad ineffective hockey. Heinens been in the lineup no disputing that.

 

[Dizzay]

He's proven to be a player good for at least 35+ points who plays sound two way hockey. He's perfect on a 3rd line if that's all he is. I just don't see how he's an unknown at this point.
He's also shown he can move up and down a lineup and be effective.

I'm not really in argue mode, I'll just say he had a solid rookie campaign but followed it up with a brutal 2nd year where his stats got inflated playing with Bergy and Marshy. I root for all Bruins so I hope he puts up 40-50 points but I'm skeptical. Also the reason I believe he gets debated so much is some crazy over value him and some crazy under value him. I'd say let's give him the season before we really know what he is?

 

[Glove Malfunction]

I'm not really in argue mode, I'll just say he had a solid rookie campaign but followed it up with a brutal 2nd year where his stats got inflated playing with Bergy and Marshy. I root for all Bruins so I hope he puts up 40-50 points but I'm skeptical. Also the reason I believe he gets debated so much is some crazy over value him and some crazy under value him. I'd say let's give him the season before we really know what he is?

When he played on the 1st line and on the 2nd line, those two line combinations had the two highest CorsiFor % ratings of any line that played 70 minutes or more together, so let's not pretend that he was some scrub riding their coattails. He can plug in and do fine on either line, without being a detriment to the line. Not sure I'd call his sophomore campaign "brutal", but he definitely was not as productive as his first year.

 

[Dizzay]

When he played on the 1st line and on the 2nd line, those two line combinations had the two highest CorsiFor % ratings of any line that played 70 minutes or more together, so let's not pretend that he was some scrub riding their coattails. He can plug in and do fine on either line, without being a detriment to the line. Not sure I'd call his sophomore campaign "brutal", but he definitely was not as productive as his first year.

A 40 some year old Recchi played with Bergy and Marshy as well and looked great. Again, I hope he puts up 50-60-70 points but both parties on this site over value and under value him. Let's see what he brings in 19-20 and save the Heinen debate for the off season. Let's go Bruins

 

[ODAAT]

coulda sworn this was the Cehlarik thread

 

[Dr Hook]

coulda sworn this was the Cehlarik thread

We could use an all-purpose "whipping boy" thread around here

 

[ODAAT]

We could use an all-purpose "whipping boy" thread around here

have both Ritchie and Heinen for that one

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

I’m not seeing it with Cehlarik. I think they’ll try to trade him.

 

[The National]

That cut back move he made on Coyle while entering the zone with numbers putting them all offsides was nice.

 

[BruinDust]

Doesn't skate well enough to play at the pace needed to be successful in today's NHL. Next!

 

[ODAAT]

I’m not seeing it with Cehlarik. I think they’ll try to trade him.

his play has me thinking there isn`t a long line of teams frothing at the mouth to try and get him, let`s give Seny a looksy

 

[Chief Nine]

That cut back move he made on Coyle while entering the zone with numbers putting them all offsides was nice.

I bet Coyle was wondering what the hell he was doing there

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Big guy with some skill. I like the combo of him and Ritchie for depth that can play up in the lineup.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

I don’t dislike like him. I just don’t see him as a regular on a contending team. It’s like he’s just missing an extra gear.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I don’t dislike like him. I just don’t see him as a regular on a contending team. It’s like he’s just missing an extra gear.

It's just him not being able to play with the pace needed in the NHL consistently enough. Maybe another situation would allow him to have more success?

 

[Blowfish]

It's just him not being able to play with the pace needed in the NHL consistently enough. Maybe another situation would allow him to have more success?

He was effective his first game up...not so much this game. His pace continues to be his only question mark - the dude can read plays, score, make nifty passes with ease, play the boards, check...

TBH I thought he was a right off until such time he showed up with a vengeance in Providence.

Thinking we need to see a few more games before final judgement. Like many, perhaps it's time for a new scenery.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

It's just him not being able to play with the pace needed in the NHL consistently enough. Maybe another situation would allow him to have more success?

Maybe it would, yeah. I have a gut feeling we will find out this season.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

It's just him not being able to play with the pace needed in the NHL consistently enough. Maybe another situation would allow him to have more success?

Absolutely.

Since leaving Providence/our organization castoff Kenny Agostino played in 63 NHL games last season and inked a 2 year 1 way contract this summer.

He'll get a shot.

We'll see how the roster shakes out when Miller and Moore come off LTIR we might be losing guys to waivers. Its becoming clear to me we are the best team in the NHL so I no longer think we 'need' to make that big trade for a second liner and am warming up to keeping Backes around as 13th F. If we need to put 33 upstairs for Lauzen or Urho at some point having some company in 42 could ease that move.

But honestly I kind of like the Ritchie/Cehlarik/Kuhlman trio for that last spot in the lineup even if its on the second line with DK and JDB.

 

[BruinDust]

Absolutely.

Since leaving Providence/our organization castoff Kenny Agostino played in 63 NHL games last season and inked a 2 year 1 way contract this summer.

He'll get a shot.

We'll see how the roster shakes out when Miller and Moore come off LTIR we might be losing guys to waivers. Its becoming clear to me we are the best team in the NHL so I no longer think we 'need' to make that big trade for a second liner and am warming up to keeping Backes around as 13th F. If we need to put 33 upstairs for Lauzen or Urho at some point having some company in 42 could ease that move.

But honestly I kind of like the Ritchie/Cehlarik/Kuhlman trio for that last spot in the lineup even if its on the second line with DK and JDB.