Player Discussion Peter Cehlarik - II

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I’m going to miss that old thread. Lots of unintentional comedy in there.

The funny part about this is that I actually like Cehlarik. Similar to Colt, I first saw him in the WJC’s and thought he looked pretty good.

I hope he does well, but am not blind to the areas he needs to work on, and I’m not counting on him to be the savior for the second line.
 
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Obviously he got the call up cause he seemed to earn it.

But it's still a lingering thought that he could also be getting showcased simply because of the Bruins surplus of young left handed wingers all around the same age (Heinen, Bjork, Donato, Cehlarik)
 
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He's out of options after this season so it was smart to see what he has, increase value to team or in trade and make a decision on him as to whether you feel he's a long term solution.
 

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I feel as though he was fed to the wolves last night being called up and slapped on the carousel that is David Krejci's other wing. Sink or swim bud! Which, he fared well dont get be wrong- but it's one game.

Even if he plays well...This team still needs help from outside. The second line is questionable. And the third line is full of kids. Two being rookies.

They don't go far in the playoffs with those two lines IMO.

Even if Cehlarik gets replaced by an external player brought in for that second line he could still kick a guy like Donato out of the lineup if he out plays him.

So let's see where he's at after more than one game. Good start so far though. Good on him.
 

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Obviously he got the call up cause he seemed to earn it.

But it's still a lingering thought that he could also be getting showcased simply because of the Bruins surplus of young left handed wingers all around the same age (Heinen, Bjork, Donato, Cehlarik)
It could also be the other way around. Maybe Heinen/Donato is on their way out and they want to see if Cehlarik can fill their void before trading one.
 

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It could also be the other way around. Maybe Heinen/Donato is on their way out and they want to see if Cehlarik can fill their void before trading one.
Could be. Countless possibilities. :laugh:

I would rule Bjork out though due to his injury and would expect his value to be down right now.
 

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I’m going to miss that old thread. Lots of unintentional comedy in there.

The funny part about this is that I actually like Cehlarik. Similar to Colt, I first saw him in the WJC’s and thought he looked pretty good.

I hope he does well, but am not blind to the areas he needs to work on, and I’m not counting on him to be the savior for the second line.
virtually nobody in that thread was saying this. we were excited that something finally worked on that line. I think it's ok to get excited over 1 game. I'm not signing a contract that says I can't say I was wrong later. I don't get why you're so hung up on tempering people's expectations on this guy. for the most part people weren't projecting his performance last night too far out into the future.
 

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He's out of options after this season so it was smart to see what he has, increase value to team or in trade and make a decision on him as to whether you feel he's a long term solution.
I just wish they'd done it sooner. Let's say they make a trade today...they have no idea if his performance last night was the start of him "getting it" or if it was just adrenaline & luck and they don't have time to figure out which.
 

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virtually nobody in that thread was saying this. we were excited that something finally worked on that line. I think it's ok to get excited over 1 game. I'm not signing a contract that says I can't say I was wrong later. I don't get why you're so hung up on tempering people's expectations on this guy. for the most part people weren't projecting his performance last night too far out into the future.

Are you kidding? People were absolutely giddy in the thread after the game. Acting as if Cehlarik was the answer to the B’s 2nd line woes. I’m not ready to buy in after one game.

You can be excited if you want, I am going to take the very cautiously optimistic approach. I have seen way too many players look good when they are first called up and then falter shortly after.

Sorry if that’s killing your vibe.
 

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I just wish they'd done it sooner. Let's say they make a trade today...they have no idea if his performance last night was the start of him "getting it" or if it was just adrenaline & luck and they don't have time to figure out which.
Yeah, very poorly handled in that respect. Cassidy's post-game comment about Cehlarik was interesting. Have to wonder how much control and input he has over personnel decisions. Even if Cehlarik continues to play well the team still needs to add a player or two in order to compete for a Cup. It would have been nice to know exactly what needed to be added. Hopefully they can figure it out despite waiting far too long to call up Cehlarik.
 
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It's HF- if he had a bad game, there would have been tons of "bust!" "trade him" "should have called up X instead" "Sweeney is a moron!" "Cassidy has no clue" etc. Nature of the beast around these parts. Cehlarik had a good game, but I liked what he showed in flashes in the past callup, so cautiously optimistic for me as well, but there is no reason he can't become a solid 2nd line wing. The tools are there, he was a 2nd round pick so clearly the team saw something in him as a kid, he's paid his dues in Providence (unlike at least one comparable forward that has been preferred over him *cough* teddy jr *cough*). At the end of afternoon, the Bruins are far better off if Cehlarik makes a solid impact as a regular player than having to trade for someone.

As side note, and I don't know how this compares to other clubs around the league as I didn't feel like doing the work to find out, the Bruins had 10 of 12 forwards last night that were our own draft picks (11 if you count Acciari as a FA signing that wasn't associated with another franchise), and on D, 3 draft picks of ours, plus 2 that are in the Noel category. That looks good to me.
 
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Are you kidding? People were absolutely giddy in the thread after the game. Acting as if Cehlarik was the answer to the B’s 2nd line woes. I’m not ready to buy in after one game.

You can be excited if you want, I am going to take the very cautiously optimistic approach. I have seen way too many players look good when they are first called up and then falter shortly after.

Sorry if that’s killing your vibe.
when you were telling people to pump the brakes last night I actually re-read the last few pages of that thread & only found one instance of someone getting carried away with saying he was the solution. virtually everyone was:
1. excited that a guy they rooted for got a chance and did well
2. saying management was dumb for taking so long to give him that chance

so pretty much nobody was being unreasonable or overly optimistic.
 

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when you were telling people to pump the brakes last night I actually re-read the last few pages of that thread & only found one instance of someone getting carried away with saying he was the solution. virtually everyone was:
1. excited that a guy they rooted for got a chance and did well
2. saying management was dumb for taking so long to give him that chance

so pretty much nobody was being unreasonable or overly optimistic.

A poster compared him to a “mini Dave Andreychuk” earlier. Pretty realistic to me :laugh:

Also, while I do think Cehlarik should have made the team out of Camp, I don’t think management was “dumb” for taking so long to give him a chance. He did little to nothing to force their hands until December, and didn’t really turn it on until the last couple of weeks.
 

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A poster compared him to a “mini Dave Andreychuk” earlier. Pretty realistic to me :laugh:

Also, while I do think Cehlarik should have made the team out of Camp, I don’t think management was “dumb” for taking so long to give him a chance. He did little to nothing to force their hands until December, and didn’t really turn it on until the last couple of weeks.
force their hand? why does it seem like he's held to a different standard? JFK was just ok in providence before his callup. Yes he's a center but they had played him at wing before going to Cehlarik. Kuraly had a bad start, Acciari too. Heinen & Donato have been average to awful at times. Bjork was no more impressive than Cehlarik at any point this year (or in camp).

Yeah it wasn't until recently that Cehlarik started to put it together more consistently in providence but the bar was set so low by his peers that it shouldn't have taken this long to give him a shot. So yeah I think it was dumb of them to be grasping at straws with moves like JFK at wing or adding Gemel Smith when Cehlarik deserved a shot back in October.
 

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A poster compared him to a “mini Dave Andreychuk” earlier. Pretty realistic to me :laugh:

Also, while I do think Cehlarik should have made the team out of Camp, I don’t think management was “dumb” for taking so long to give him a chance. He did little to nothing to force their hands until December, and didn’t really turn it on until the last couple of weeks.

I appreciate your answers to my question yesterday in the old thread :thumbu:

I don't think most of us were giddy. Myself I was just happy that Krejci and DeBrusk had somebody to play with and show us they are very good at it. The goals were just cherry on the top.

The real issue for me is how the front office has been handling their assets. If Senyshyn had the camp as Cehlarik had I would be screaming about him since September of not getting the chance. There are number of cases with a question mark. For example the preseason camp. Why to involve so many young guys in it if the point was to get to a game speed for already a chosen roster. Out of all centers Frederic stood out the most ready for that 3rd line duty. The inability properly evaluate what they have in house came to Cave disaster of losing him to waiver. How come there is no accountability towards some seasoned players or veterans as well. Acciari and Backes specifically. It took Backes the whole camp and 2 months of the season to adjust to the game speed. And he still looks slow. Acciari after the camp was totally redundant. He is just a skater who by an accident was told to get in the rink and was given to hold the stick. It just blows my mind on what metrics they keep him in the line up.
 

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force their hand? why does it seem like he's held to a different standard? JFK was just ok in providence before his callup. Yes he's a center but they had played him at wing before going to Cehlarik. Kuraly had a bad start, Acciari too. Heinen & Donato have been average to awful at times. Bjork was no more impressive than Cehlarik at any point this year (or in camp).

Yeah it wasn't until recently that Cehlarik started to put it together more consistently in providence but the bar was set so low by his peers that it shouldn't have taken this long to give him a shot. So yeah I think it was dumb of them to be grasping at straws with moves like JFK at wing or adding Gemel Smith when Cehlarik deserved a shot back in October.

Cehlarik deserved a shot out of Camp. He didn’t deserve a shot based on his October, where he was reportedly scratched for not moving his feet/playing poorly.

Personally, I think JFK was called up strictly because he was a C. I’m not sure why they claimed Smith when they already had guys like Acciari, etc.?

Heinen, Kuraly, Acciari all subject to waivers. Different set of rules.

When Donato was sent down, he put up 9 pts (5g/4a) in 10 games. At the same time Cehlarik had 3g/3a. Why would they call Cehlarik up over Donato when RD outproduced him in the same setting?
 

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I appreciate your answers to my question yesterday in the old thread :thumbu:

I don't think most of us were giddy. Myself I was just happy that Krejci and DeBrusk had somebody to play with and show us they are very good at it. The goals were just cherry on the top.

The real issue for me is how the front office has been handling their assets. If Senyshyn had the camp as Cehlarik had I would be screaming about him since September of not getting the chance. There are number of cases with a question mark. For example the preseason camp. Why to involve so many young guys in it if the point was to get to a game speed for already a chosen roster. Out of all centers Frederic stood out the most ready for that 3rd line duty. The inability properly evaluate what they have in house came to Cave disaster of losing him to waiver. How come there is no accountability towards some seasoned players or veterans as well. Acciari and Backes specifically. It took Backes the whole camp and 2 months of the season to adjust to the game speed. And he still looks slow. Acciari after the camp was totally redundant. He is just a skater who by an accident was told to get in the rink and was given to hold the stick. It just blows my mind on what metrics they keep him in the line up.

I’m not sure what to tell you because I’m not on the coaching staff.

Personally, I thought that Cehlarik should have broken camp with the team. I thought Frederic could have as well. If I had to guess about the handling of these kids, I would say that whenever possible, they like them to get as much AHL experience as possible. I’m not sure why those same rules didn’t seem to apply to Donato and Bjork?

As far as the vets go, (as frustrating as it can be at times) there are very few teams that I know of that don’t have a different set of standards for the rookies.
 

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Cehlarik deserved a shot out of Camp. He didn’t deserve a shot based on his October, where he was reportedly scratched for not moving his feet/playing poorly.

Personally, I think JFK was called up strictly because he was a C. I’m not sure why they claimed Smith when they already had guys like Acciari, etc.?

Heinen, Kuraly, Acciari all subject to waivers. Different set of rules.

When Donato was sent down, he put up 9 pts (5g/4a) in 10 games. At the same time Cehlarik had 3g/3a. Why would they call Cehlarik up over Donato when RD outproduced him in the same setting?
They shouldn’t have called Donato up because it’s not all about points. Donato could have had 2ppg in Providence but that wouldn’t fix what ails him in the NHL. He’s not ready this year no matter how many points he gets in Providence. Donato needs to add strength and playing a few weeks in Providence doesn’t change that.
 

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They shouldn’t have called Donato up because it’s not all about points. Donato could have had 2ppg in Providence but that wouldn’t fix what ails him in the NHL. He’s not ready this year no matter how many points he gets in Providence. Donato needs to add strength and playing a few weeks in Providence doesn’t change that.

I agree, I’m just trying to offer explanations.
 

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Glad Sweeney finally woke up from his coma and called up skills from Providence with Cehlarik.

In one game, he has 1 more goal than Acciari has all year. 40% of Kuraly, Wagner or Nordstrom.

Too many no hands grinders on this team. Calling up Cehlarik is a start and Acciari is sitting tonight. Team improved with this callup.
 
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1st time I heard Cassidy say along the lines of

Peter was excellent....maybe we should have called him up sooner LOL

I couldn't believe my eyes....but this was true

Just goes to show how much of a long leash guys like Backes, Acciari and even Cave have on the team

Yes defense matters, not making little mistakes as possible is important

but so is scoring some damn points. So is getting the most out of Krejci, Debrusk

You depend on one line to score.... all it does is tire them out and stress the rest of the team
 

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Cehlarik 1st penalty was not a good one....but he looked angry/ready for business on his 1st shift

which was good to see (unlike previous where he looked a little timid). Also looking to get his own (shoot/score more)

Like I mentioned... he looks like he has added some mass and isn't shy to park/battle in front the net now

I hope the 2nd line can put up another goal tonight
 

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