Prospect Info: Personal Boards for 2020 Draft

[The Zetterberg Era]

I know a lot of us make our own boards, some larger some smaller. I always enjoy seeing what other people think, despite how I post at times in disagreement. In any event, here is a thread where we can post our thoughts.

Rank as many as you like, I would at least encourage people to shoot for a first round. In a lot of ways it can make draft night fairly interesting when you have something in advance.

With Covid-19 I have actually made it to a top 100. I am sure there are a few names missing or spectacularly lower than you think they should be. But here is mine, I hope we can all participate and have some fun.

1. Quinton Byfield
2. Alexis Lafreniere
3. Lucas Raymond
4. Tim Stutzle
5. Yaroslav Askarov
6. Cole Perfetti
7. Jamie Drysdale
8. Jake Sanderson
9. Anton Lundell
10. Alexander Holtz
11. Seth Jarvis
12. Connor Zary
13. Hendrix Lapierre
14. Kaiden Guhle
15. William Wallinder
16. Roman Amirov
17. Dylan Holloway
18. Jack Quinn
19. Marat Khusnutdinov
20. Marco Rossi
21. Mavrik Bourque
22. Noel Gunlar
23. Brandon Brisson
24. Emil Andrae
25. Dawson Mercer
26. Braden Schneider
27. JJ Peterka
28. Jan Mysak
29. Jeremie Poirier
30. Lucas Reichel
31. Vasiliy Ponomarev
32. Jacob Perreault
33. Ryan O’Rourke
34. Joni Jurmo
35. Lukas Cormier
36. Thomas Bordeleau
37. Ozzy Weisblatt
38. Helge Grans
39. Joni Hirvonen
40. Justin Barron
41. Martin Chromiak
42. Ridly Grieg
43. Ty Smilanic
44. Shakir Mukhamadullin
45. Alexander Pashin
46. Kasper Simontaival
47. Yan Kuznetsov
48. Jean-Luc Foudy
49. Topi Niemela
50. Zion Nybeck
51. Daniel Torgersson
52. Jake Neighbours
53. Carter Savoie
54. Brock Faber
55. Tyler Tullio
56. Tristen Robins
57. Justin Sourdif
58. Sean Farrell
59. Dylan Peterson
60. Drew Commesso
61. Donovan Sebrango
62. Brandon Coe
63. Wyatt Kaiser
64. Alexander Nikishin
65. Theodore Niederbach
66. Zayde Wisdom
67. Sam Colangelo
68. Daemon Hunt
69. Vetti Miettinen
70. Dmitry Zlodeyev
71. Ryder Rolston
72. Mitchell Miller
73. Tyson Foerster
74. Eemil Viro
75. Tyler Kleven
76. Theo Rochette
77. William Villeneuve
78. Connor McClennon
79. Anton Johannesson
80. Joel Blomqvist
81. Maxim Groshev
82. Danill Gushchin
83. Roby Jarventie
84. Pavel Gogolev
85. Eamon Powell
86. Luke Tuch
87. Ian Moore
88. Dmitri Ovchinnikov
89. Danill Gutik
90. Egor Sokolov
91. Will Cuylle
92. Ryan Francis
93. Oliver Suni
94. Samuel Knazko
95. Charles DesRoches
96. Michael Benning
97. Adam Raska
98. Blake Biondi
99. Antonio Stranges
100. Pavel Novak

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[evolutionbaby]

Good list. How come Forester is so low?

 

[Frk It]

1- Alexis Lafreniere
2- Quinton Byfield
3- Lucas Raymond
4- Tim Stutzle
5- Jamie Drysdale
6- Cole Perfetti
7- Yaroslav Askarov
8- Marco Rossi
9- Anton Lundell
10- Alexander Holtz
11- Connor Zary
12- Jake Sanderson
13- Mavrik Bourque
14- Seth Jarvis
15- Dawson Mercer
16- Brendan Brisson
17- Jack Quinn
18- Jacob Perrault
19- Rodion Amirov
20- Kaiden Guhle
21- Hendrix Lapierre (like him better than this... without concussions would probably have him #8-13ish)
22- Noel Gunler
23- Lukas Reichel
24- Dylan Holloway
25- William Wallinder
26- Braden Schneider
27- Vasily Ponomaryov
28- Jan Mysak
29- Thomas Bordeleau
30- Martin Chromiak
31- JJ Peterka
----------------
32- Ryan O'Rourke
33- Marat Khusnutdinov
34- Helge Grans
35- Daniel Torgersson
36- Alexander Pashin
37- Ridly Greig
38- Jeremie Poirer
39- Tyson Foerster
40- Tyler Tullio

HM- Hirvonen, Guschin, Barron, Cormier, Robins, Niederbach, Nybeck

 

[Frk It]

I know a lot of us make our own boards, some larger some smaller. I always enjoy seeing what other people think, despite how I post at times in disagreement. In any event, here is a thread where we can post our thoughts.

Rank as many as you like, I would at least encourage people to shoot for a first round. In a lot of ways it can make draft night fairly interesting when you have something in advance.

With Covid-19 I have actually made it to a top 100. I am sure there are a few names missing or spectacularly lower than you think they should be. But here is mine, I hope we can all participate and have some fun.

1. Quinton Byfield
2. Alexis Lafreniere
3. Tim Stutzle
4. Lucas Raymond
5. Jamie Drysdale
6. Yaroslav Askarov
7. Cole Perfetti
8. Anton Lundell
9. Jake Sanderson
10. Alexander Holtz
11. Seth Jarvis
12. Connor Zary
13. Hendrix Lapierre
14. Marco Rossi
15. Kaiden Guhle
16. William Wallinder
17. Rodion Amirov
18. Dylan Holloway
19. Jack Quinn
20. Marat Khusnutdinov
21. Mavrik Bourque
22. Noel Gunlar
23. Brandon Brisson
24. Emil Andrae
25. Dawson Mercer
26. Braden Schneider
27. JJ Peterka
28. Jan Mysak
29. Jeremie Poirier
30. Lucas Reichel
31. Vasiliy Ponomarev
32. Jacob Perreault
33. Ryan O’Rourke
34. Justin Barron
35. Lukas Cormier
36. Thomas Bordeleau
37. Ozzy Weisblatt
38. Helge Grans
39. Joni Hirvonen
40. Joni Jurmo
41. Martin Chromiak
42. Ridly Grieg
43. Ty Smilanic
44. Shakir Mukhamadullin
45. Alexander Pashin
46. Kasper Simontaival
47. Yan Kuznetsov
48. Jean-Luc Foudy
49. Topi Niemela
50. Zion Nybeck
51. Daniel Torgersson
52. Jake Neighbours
53. Carter Savoie
54. Brock Faber
55. Tyler Tullio
56. Tristen Robins
57. Justin Sourdif
58. Sean Farrell
59. Dylan Peterson
60. Drew Commesso
61. Donovan Sebrango
62. Brandon Coe
63. Wyatt Kaiser
64. Alexander Nikishin
65. Theodore Niederbach
66. Zayde Wisdom
67. Sam Colangelo
68. Daemon Hunt
69. Vetti Miettinen
70. Dmitry Zlodeyev
71. Ryder Rolston
72. Mitchell Miller
73. Tyson Foerster
74. Eemil Viro
75. Tyler Kleven
76. Theo Rochette
77. William Villeneuve
78. Connor McClennon
79. Anton Johannesson
80. Joel Blomqvist
81. Maxim Groshev
82. Danill Gushchin
83. Roby Jarventie
84. Pavel Gogolev
85. Eamon Powell
86. Luke Tuch
87. Ian Moore
88. Dmitri Ovchinnikov
89. Danill Gutik
90. Egor Sokolov
91. Will Cuylle
92. Ryan Francis
93. Oliver Suni
94. Samuel Knazko
95. Charles DesRoches
96. Michael Benning
97. Adam Raska
98. Blake Biondi
99. Antonio Stranges
100. Pavel Novak

I assumed you were higher on Jack Quinn than this... but you had him pretty similar to where I did.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Good list. How come Forester is so low?

I am extremely worried about his skating. I love his shot, but I loved Frk's and Pulkkinen's shot. If he can fix his skating he might be an awesome player.

 

[ShanahanMan]

I know a lot of us make our own boards, some larger some smaller. I always enjoy seeing what other people think, despite how I post at times in disagreement. In any event, here is a thread where we can post our thoughts.

Rank as many as you like, I would at least encourage people to shoot for a first round. In a lot of ways it can make draft night fairly interesting when you have something in advance.

With Covid-19 I have actually made it to a top 100. I am sure there are a few names missing or spectacularly lower than you think they should be. But here is mine, I hope we can all participate and have some fun.

1. Quinton Byfield
2. Alexis Lafreniere
3. Tim Stutzle
4. Lucas Raymond
5. Jamie Drysdale
6. Yaroslav Askarov
7. Cole Perfetti
8. Anton Lundell
9. Jake Sanderson
10. Alexander Holtz
11. Seth Jarvis
12. Connor Zary
13. Hendrix Lapierre
14. Marco Rossi
15. Kaiden Guhle
16. William Wallinder
17. Rodion Amirov
18. Dylan Holloway
19. Jack Quinn
20. Marat Khusnutdinov
21. Mavrik Bourque
22. Noel Gunlar
23. Brandon Brisson
24. Emil Andrae
25. Dawson Mercer
26. Braden Schneider
27. JJ Peterka
28. Jan Mysak
29. Jeremie Poirier
30. Lucas Reichel
31. Vasiliy Ponomarev
32. Jacob Perreault
33. Ryan O’Rourke
34. Justin Barron
35. Lukas Cormier
36. Thomas Bordeleau
37. Ozzy Weisblatt
38. Helge Grans
39. Joni Hirvonen
40. Joni Jurmo
41. Martin Chromiak
42. Ridly Grieg
43. Ty Smilanic
44. Shakir Mukhamadullin
45. Alexander Pashin
46. Kasper Simontaival
47. Yan Kuznetsov
48. Jean-Luc Foudy
49. Topi Niemela
50. Zion Nybeck
51. Daniel Torgersson
52. Jake Neighbours
53. Carter Savoie
54. Brock Faber
55. Tyler Tullio
56. Tristen Robins
57. Justin Sourdif
58. Sean Farrell
59. Dylan Peterson
60. Drew Commesso
61. Donovan Sebrango
62. Brandon Coe
63. Wyatt Kaiser
64. Alexander Nikishin
65. Theodore Niederbach
66. Zayde Wisdom
67. Sam Colangelo
68. Daemon Hunt
69. Vetti Miettinen
70. Dmitry Zlodeyev
71. Ryder Rolston
72. Mitchell Miller
73. Tyson Foerster
74. Eemil Viro
75. Tyler Kleven
76. Theo Rochette
77. William Villeneuve
78. Connor McClennon
79. Anton Johannesson
80. Joel Blomqvist
81. Maxim Groshev
82. Danill Gushchin
83. Roby Jarventie
84. Pavel Gogolev
85. Eamon Powell
86. Luke Tuch
87. Ian Moore
88. Dmitri Ovchinnikov
89. Danill Gutik
90. Egor Sokolov
91. Will Cuylle
92. Ryan Francis
93. Oliver Suni
94. Samuel Knazko
95. Charles DesRoches
96. Michael Benning
97. Adam Raska
98. Blake Biondi
99. Antonio Stranges
100. Pavel Novak

That’s surprising. I thought Perfetti was your top choice at 4.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

That’s surprising. I thought Perfetti was your top choice at 4.

I would take Raymond, they represent a lot of the similar traits and I have heard the Wings like Perfetti was the bigger point. He has a high ceiling and if they believe he can be a center I get the idea.

 

[Bondurant]

1- Alexis Lafreniere
2- Quinton Byfield
3- Lucas Raymond
4- Tim Stutzle

I hope LA and Ottawa have the same board as you.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I hope LA and Ottawa have the same board as you.

Despite his tumble this year, it is important to note Lucas Raymond entered the year as the #2 prospect in most rankings ahead of Byfield. He has been utterly dominant in his own peer group when there. His underlying numbers while playing little in the SHL were actually quite good, one of the very best on his team which is quite good in the 4th best league in the world in my opinion. I think of all the players in the draft a delay into next season might help Raymond go right back up the board. If he comes out in August and September and is shredding the SHL because Frolunda is actually playing him decent minutes and special teams I wouldn't be surprised to see him crack that top 3 at all.

I have him in a virtual dead-heat with Stutzle. That Stutzle might be able to be a center was my tiebreaker. But I think they are the same class of talent. I know others do not, but Raymond is a very gifted player in my opinion. He is better on the defensive side of things too, so he isn't just a pure offensive guy. One of the best in this class on the forecheck and hounding the puck. He is always processing the game when you watch him, solving problems offensively and defensively. Smart as hell in my viewings.

 

[newfy]

I'm only going to do a top 10ish, knowing Detroit was guaranteed to pick high I only really focused on watching top 10 type guys. I have guys I would like them to target in the second but dont think I had enough views of guys to make a full list. I didnt put time into watching guys ranked 15ish really this year.

Lafreniere
Byfield
Stutzle
Drysdale
Perfetti
Raymond
Rossi
Holtz
Sanderson
Askarov
Quinn
Holloway

I think Holloway is probably too high but I didnt watch him really this year. Based on watching him last year and at the u18s as an underage guy he really jumped out to me. I think I only watched one Wisco game this year, but he seemed buried in a good line up when I saw him and with more ice time I think maybe those skills pop back out that I saw. Same number of goals as Brady Tkachuk in his draft year. I'm not going out on a limb for this guy but i think he has more than hes shown this year

 

[MBH]

No point in a long, long list for me.
There's very little separating a 27 from a 28 for me, let alone a 58.

So here are the players I want, in order.

1. Byfield
2. Lafreniere
3. Sanderson
4. Stutzle
5. Perfetti
6. Askarov
7. Drysdale
8. Raymond
9. Jarvis
10. Raymond
11. Holtz
12. Rossi
13. Quinn
14. Lapierre
15. Amirov

 

[Go Wings]

Lafrienere
Byfield
Stutzle
Drysdale
Rossi

That is my top 5 and since we got screwed out of the top 3 hopefully we take either Drysdale or Rossi.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Lafreniere
Stutzle
Byfield
Drysdale
Raymond
Perfetti
Rossi
Holtz
Askarov
Sanderson
Lundell

 

[Hen Kolland]

I know a lot of us make our own boards, some larger some smaller. I always enjoy seeing what other people think, despite how I post at times in disagreement. In any event, here is a thread where we can post our thoughts.

Rank as many as you like, I would at least encourage people to shoot for a first round. In a lot of ways it can make draft night fairly interesting when you have something in advance.

With Covid-19 I have actually made it to a top 100. I am sure there are a few names missing or spectacularly lower than you think they should be. But here is mine, I hope we can all participate and have some fun.

1. Quinton Byfield
2. Alexis Lafreniere
3. Tim Stutzle
4. Lucas Raymond
5. Jamie Drysdale
6. Yaroslav Askarov
7. Cole Perfetti
8. Anton Lundell
9. Jake Sanderson
10. Alexander Holtz
11. Seth Jarvis
12. Connor Zary
13. Hendrix Lapierre
14. Marco Rossi
15. Kaiden Guhle
16. William Wallinder
17. Rodion Amirov
18. Dylan Holloway
19. Jack Quinn
20. Marat Khusnutdinov
21. Mavrik Bourque
22. Noel Gunlar
23. Brandon Brisson
24. Emil Andrae
25. Dawson Mercer
26. Braden Schneider
27. JJ Peterka
28. Jan Mysak
29. Jeremie Poirier
30. Lucas Reichel
31. Vasiliy Ponomarev
32. Jacob Perreault
33. Ryan O’Rourke
34. Justin Barron
35. Lukas Cormier
36. Thomas Bordeleau
37. Ozzy Weisblatt
38. Helge Grans
39. Joni Hirvonen
40. Joni Jurmo
41. Martin Chromiak
42. Ridly Grieg
43. Ty Smilanic
44. Shakir Mukhamadullin
45. Alexander Pashin
46. Kasper Simontaival
47. Yan Kuznetsov
48. Jean-Luc Foudy
49. Topi Niemela
50. Zion Nybeck
51. Daniel Torgersson
52. Jake Neighbours
53. Carter Savoie
54. Brock Faber
55. Tyler Tullio
56. Tristen Robins
57. Justin Sourdif
58. Sean Farrell
59. Dylan Peterson
60. Drew Commesso
61. Donovan Sebrango
62. Brandon Coe
63. Wyatt Kaiser
64. Alexander Nikishin
65. Theodore Niederbach
66. Zayde Wisdom
67. Sam Colangelo
68. Daemon Hunt
69. Vetti Miettinen
70. Dmitry Zlodeyev
71. Ryder Rolston
72. Mitchell Miller
73. Tyson Foerster
74. Eemil Viro
75. Tyler Kleven
76. Theo Rochette
77. William Villeneuve
78. Connor McClennon
79. Anton Johannesson
80. Joel Blomqvist
81. Maxim Groshev
82. Danill Gushchin
83. Roby Jarventie
84. Pavel Gogolev
85. Eamon Powell
86. Luke Tuch
87. Ian Moore
88. Dmitri Ovchinnikov
89. Danill Gutik
90. Egor Sokolov
91. Will Cuylle
92. Ryan Francis
93. Oliver Suni
94. Samuel Knazko
95. Charles DesRoches
96. Michael Benning
97. Adam Raska
98. Blake Biondi
99. Antonio Stranges
100. Pavel Novak

As much as ranking Rossi down at 14 sounded overly bold on surface in other threads, when you look at the list of names, it's not like there isn't justification for those players where they are. And honestly, you could make a case for even more people to be ranked higher. Like Guhle and Quinn have a lot of supporters and seeing Quinn in the back end of the top 10, and Guhle in the back end of the top 15 like you can see from some outlets...you could conceivably have Rossi outside of the top 15.

Some people won't rank Askarov, some people remove Lapierre because of health concerns, some people remove Lundell due to perceived upside concerns. But having them in the fold. Having Zary and Jarvis just outside of the top 10 which is fairly normal. Someone has to fall, and it absolutely makes sense how you personally can have Rossi down the list.

 

[WaW]

Lafreniere
Byfield
Stutzle
Drysdale
Rossi
Raymond
Holtz
Sanderson
Lundell
Perfetti
Quinn
Askarov

 

[simonedvinsson]

Disclaimer: these are based 95% on tournaments, highlights, and what I've read about them, so factor in a boulder of salt.

Grade A
01 | Lafreniere, LW
02 | Stuetzle, C
03 | Byfield, C

Grade A-
04 | Sanderson, LHD
05 | Rossi, C
06 | Jarvis, RW
07 | Perfetti, C
08 | Drysdale, RHD
09 | Holtz, RW
10 | Lapierre, C
11 | Quinn, RW
12 | Raymond, LW
13 | Reichel, LW
14 | Askarov, G

Grade B
15 | Mercer, C
16 | Perreault, C
17 | Schneider, RHD
18 | Bourque, C
19 | Wallinder, LHD
20 | Peterka, RW
21 | Gunler, RW
22 | Holloway, C
23 | Mysak, LW
24 | Robins, RW
25 | Lundell, C
26 | Zary, C
27 | Foerster, C
28 | Amirov, LW

Grade C+
29 | Brisson, C
30 | Cormier, LHD
31 | Hanas, LW
32 | Torgersson, LW
33 | Oksentyuk, LW
34 | Jurmo, LHD
35 | Evangelista, RW
36 | Ovchinnikov, C
37 | Heineman, LW
38 | Grans, RHD
39 | Kaiser, LHD
40 | Pashin, RW
41 | Chromiak, RW
42 | O'Rourke, LHD
43 | Neighbours, LW
44 | Greig, C
45 | Wiesblatt, RW

Grade C
46 | Kuznetsov, LHD
47 | Seeley, LHD
48 | Niemela, RHD
49 | Guhle, LHD
50 | Tyutnev, C
51 | Bordeleau, C
52 | Commesso, G
53 | Pytlik, C
54 | Wisdom, RW
55 | Powell, RHD
56 | Rashevsky, RW
57 | Khusnutdinov, C
58 | Gushchin, LW
59 | Persson, RHD
60 | Sourdif, RW
61 | Barron, RHD
62 | Blomqvist, G
63 | Colangelo, RW
64 | Andrae, LHD
65 | Hirvonen, C
66 | Mukhamadullin, LHD
67 | Glotzl, LHD
68 | Benning, RHD
69 | McClennon, RW

*edit: moved O'Rourke up a tier.
**edit: moved Holtz up a few spots.
***edit: moved Lapierre & Reichel up a few spots.
****edit: moved Wallinder up & Guhle down (post-draft).
*****edit: in hindsight, I dropped Raymond too far (ranked fourth a month before this list, but I dropped him to twelfth after reading about some "character concerns"). My Lundell ranking looks pretty bad in hindsight too. I'm happy with where I had Mercer, Jarvis, Reichel, and Sanderson though.

 

[Vector Cereal]

1. Lafreniere
2. Byfield
3. Stutzle
4. Perfetti
5. Raymond
6. Drysdale
7. Holtz
8. Askarov
9. Lundell
10. Jarvis
11. Zary
12. Rossi
13. Sanderson
14. Amirov
15. Schneider
16. Quinn
17. Bourque
18. Gunler
19. Holloway
20. Barron
21. Brisson
22. Perreault
23. Guhle
24. Khusnutdinov
25. Peterka
26. Lapierre
27. Mercer
28. Poirier
29. Mysak
30. Greig
31. Reichel
32. Grans
33. Wiesblatt
34. Niemela
35. Neighbours
36. Ponomarev
37. Colangelo
38. Wallinder
39. Bordeleau
40. Cormier
41. Jurmo
42. Foerster
43. Hirvonen
44. Hunt
45. Foudy
46. Savoie
47. Sebrango
48. Smilanic
49. Groshev
50. Chromiak

 

[wingfan]

Disclaimer: these are based 95% on tournaments, highlights, and what I've read about them, so factor in a boulder of salt.

Grade A
01 | Lafreniere, LW
02 | Stutzle, C
03 | Byfield, C

Grade A-
04 | Sanderson, LHD
05 | Rossi, C
06 | Jarvis, RW
07 | Perfetti, C
08 | Raymond, LW
09 | Drysdale, RHD
10 | Askarov, G
11 | Holtz, RW
12 | Mercer, C
13 | Quinn, RW
14 | Schneider, RHD

Grade B
15 | Reichel, LW
16 | Perreault, C
17 | Bourque, C
18 | Guhle, LHD
19 | Peterka, RW
20 | Gunler, RW
21 | Amirov, LW
22 | Holloway, C
23 | Mysak, LW
24 | Robins, RW
25 | Lapierre, C
26 | Lundell, C
27 | Foerster, C
28 | Zary, C

Grade C+
29 | Brisson, C
30 | Cormier, LHD
31 | Hanas, LW
32 | Torgersson, LW
33 | Oksentyuk, LW
34 | Jurmo, LHD
35 | Ovchinnikov, C
36 | Rashevsky, RW
37 | Heineman, LW
38 | Grans, RHD
39 | Kaiser, LHD
40 | Powell, RHD
41 | Chromiak, RW
42 | Tyutnev, C
43 | Evangelista, RW
44 | Greig, C

Grade C
45 | Kuznetsov, LHD
46 | Seeley, LHD
47 | Niemela, RHD
48 | Wallinder, LHD
49 | Pashin, RW
50 | Bordeleau, C
51 | Commesso, G
52 | Pytlik, C
53 | Wisdom, RW
54 | Wiesblatt, RW
55 | Colangelo, RW
56 | Khusnutdinov, C
57 | Gushchin, LW
58 | Persson, RHD
59 | Sourdif, RW
60 | Barron, RHD
61 | O'Rourke, LHD
62 | Blomqvist, G
63 | Neighbours, LW
64 | Andrae, LHD
65 | Hirvonen, C
66 | Mukhamadullin, LHD
67 | Glotzl, LHD
68 | Benning, RHD
69 | McClennon, RW

Pretty much mirrors my top 5 at this point. I really want Stutzle to fall to four, but I will still be happy with either Sanderson or Rossi.

 

[Ulysses31]

spend a lot of time research but even still SUPER hard to come up with an intelligent list that i am confident about.

AS for 1st pick:
1) Laf
2) By
3/4)Rossi or Stutzle
5/6) Raymond or Drysdale

in process of researching 2nd round tier players.

 

[jkutswings]

Question: I see Ryan O'Rourke as ~32 on some lists, but outside the top 50-60 on others. I know tiers get closer once you're outside the top 10-15, but can anybody speak to why this player seems a bit polarizing (and maybe why Detroit should or shouldn't consider him with their pick at 32)?

 

[Hen Kolland]

Question: I see Ryan O'Rourke as ~32 on some lists, but outside the top 50-60 on others. I know tiers get closer once you're outside the top 10-15, but can anybody speak to why this player seems a bit polarizing (and maybe why Detroit should or shouldn't consider him with their pick at 32)?

Some people like upside, some people like certainty.

To me, he's probably the exact description of Jared McIsaac that was being sold at the draft in 2018. I actually think McIsaac has a little more offense than he was credited for, but not a ton. But O'Rourke is what McIsaac was billed to be. He plays a physical, defensive game more than anything. Skating isn't special. Limited offensive upside. Not really a big, imposing defender, but has a little bit of a mean streak in his game.

I feel comfortable in projecting him as an NHLer, but he embodies the concept of a safe floor, low ceiling type of player. He will be a defensive defenseman, likely bottom pairing but can fill in up the roster if needed. He's a late first rounder for the team that just wants to hit a single. For the Wings, I wouldn't be mad at 32, but I think the odds would suggest that there will be someone I'd rather have over him, and hope that he lingers around a little bit into the mid and late second, even though he likely will be gone.

 

[Christien]

This was tough.

1. Lafreniere
2. Byfield
3. Stutzle
4. Raymond
5. Perfetti
6. Drysdale
7. Askarov
8. Holtz
9. Sanderson
10. Quinn
11. Rossi
12. Zary
13. Lundell
14. Jarvis
15. Mercer
16. Amirov
17. Lapierre
18. Gunler
19. Schneider
20. Khusnutdinov
21. Holloway
22. Bourque
23. Reichel
24. Guhle
25. Bordeleau
26. Cormier
27. Mysak
28. Wallinder
29. Nybeck
30. Perreault
31. Peterka
32. Brisson
33. Wiesblatt
34. Gushchin
35. Hirvonen
36. Foudy
37. Foerster
38. Ponomaryov
39. Andrae
40. Jurmo
41. Neighbours
42. Niemela
43. Savoie
44. Jarventie
45. O'Rourke
46. Simontaival
47. Greig
48. Pashin
49. Villeneuve
50. Colangelo


HM: Heineman, Evangelista, Berard, Vierling, Tullio, Powell, Niederbach, Smilanic

 

[RedWingzz]

Some of you guys are sleeping on Rossi. I don't understand how he is outside of the top 10 in some rankings..

 

[raymond23]

I’m going to go by tiers.

Lafraniere
Stutzle
Byfield
————
Raymond
Perfetti
Rossi
Drysdale
—————
Lundell
Askarov
Sanderson
Holtz

Jeez, has there been a more confusing time to pick at #4? Stevie has so many legitimate options...

 

[ArmChairGM89]

I’m going to go by tiers.

Lafraniere
Stutzle
Byfield
————
Raymond
Perfetti
Rossi
Drysdale
—————
Lundell
Askarov
Sanderson
Holtz

Jeez, has there been a more confusing time to pick at #4? Stevie has so many legitimate options...

These are my tiers also so thanks for saving me the time