Post-Game Talk: Pens @ Rangers 4/8/21

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    Penalty Shot
     
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    Maybe I'm confused because of Oshie in the Olympics.
     
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    not sure if you realize but you made my point for me? Where a specific player has been fouled that player takes the shot.
    Also thats USA hockey and not the NHL rulebook, and while they are mostly the same, some differences (but not for this).
     
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    Im trying to remember the scenario with Oshie in the Olympics, all i remember about that is a post overtime shootout, and Oshie kept shooting, not a traditional penalty shot.
     
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    Kakko was our best forward.
     
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    Geo is the better player.
     
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    I got vaccinated yesterday and feel like crap today. Could have something to do with it.
     
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    I don't believe him. He's going to ruin him. That's the goal.
     
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    I know. Just wondered if that helped cloud my brain.
     
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    I'd vote for Blackwell. A goal, a post, and vigorous forechecking.
     
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    possibly.
    If a player is hooked on the play and its a penalty shot, it must got to the player.
    If a non goalie covers the puck with his glove, in the blue paint. its a team foul, so anyone can shoot it.
     
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    Players can't be ruined. It's one of the great fairy tales of sports.
     
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    the goal was set up by kakko. kakko was driving play and controlling play, blackwell has a shot. Kakko has the puck damn near glued to his stick.
    He's looking like a monster whos getting some absolutely terrible puck luck, that'll correct itself in the future.
     
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    Not saying Kakko didn't play well. Just saying if I had a vote, I'd go Blackwell. Just an opinion.
     
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    Well the shot based metrics are only a proxy to actual puck possession, yet that aside, even as bad as the Rangers are at face-offs Zbad won 342, lost 395, so he'd have to win like one more out of those per game to be 50%

    Give that is overall face-offs, once we start to get more specific, Zbad in the D Zone, 116W and 155L, so again ~1 more, and he is 50%, and in the O zone 120W 141L.

    Even more specific, and I tend to put these in the more important

    PP in O zone he is 56 and 56. should be a little better given PP.

    PK in the D zone 39 and 70, this to me is the area that needs the most improvement, yet part of winning a draw often also relies on his teammates and when down a man or more that becomes more difficult.

    So while I do think face-offs play a part, and it would be better to win them than lose them, especially in certain situations, (any odd man situation) the percentages make the deficiency look worse than it actually is, yet we all remember the plays where a face-off loss leads to a quick goal.
     
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    One team converted on their opportunities and one team did not. Kravtsov looked really good though, which is encouraging.
     
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    That makes sense to me in so far as not placing blame solely on the person taking an "unsuccessful" draw, but in the end, whichever team gains possession after a faceoff can only be a positive, right?
     
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    I thought Pitt totally outplayed the Rangers. A couple of lucky breaks could have switched the outcome, but that's true for almost every game.
     
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    ok.
     
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    Chytil missed a wide open net. He should have at least 2 assists. Had the puck on a string.
     
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    Right, and that is sort of what I was saying, some face-offs are important, yet overall there are a lot of other things that usually sway the games towards win or loss. I agree them winning more would be great, yet I'd put that behind them not playing like they drank a keg of whiskey 9 hours prior to game time.

    The clean wins in certain situation is where it leaves me wondering something to the effect of, he couldn't have at least tied up the stick?
     
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    True but if Zib or Chytil don't miss wide open nets and if Kreider converts on that penalty shot and the outcome of the game is probably different.
     
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    I always viewed taking draws as good hand-eye coordination and smarts, which makes me think Panarin might be good at it, but since that hasn't been part of his career. I'm probably wrong.
     
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    I'm sure there's a bunch of ifs in the other direction, but as fans we only see ours.
     
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    Kreider really needs to bring that element on a nighly basis. At least bring the two way work if the scoring is cold. I look at some of his shifts and think teams like Carolina or Colorado would not accept that.
     
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