TSN: Pens believed to have interest in Howie

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

https://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre-five-goaltenders-who-could-be-on-the-move-1.1217436

"The Blues are reportedly sniffing around Detroit’s Jimmy Howard, but they may not be alone. The Pittsburgh Penguins are very much in ‘win now’ mode, are believed to have interest, and, unlike the Blues, the Pens have a first-round pick to dangle."

It would have to come at a premium, as I loathe the thought of the Pens winning a cup in my lifetime, or even after I'm gone. Even worse would be giving them help to do it.

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[Steve Yzerlland]

This is already covered in the stl eying Howie thread.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

This is already covered in the stl eying Howie thread.

Not sure where you're seeing that, because I just looked at pgs. 4&5 of the STL/Howard thread & there's no such link or post...every page before that was prior to 2pm EST, which was when TSN posted the Pens rumor/speculation.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Not sure where you're seeing that, because I just looked at pgs. 4&5 of the STL/Howard thread & there's no such link or post...every page before that was prior to 2pm EST, which was when TSN posted the Pens rumor/speculation.

It should go in that thread. You mentioned Carolina in there. There's no point of another thread talking about essentially the same topic.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

It should go in that thread. You mentioned Carolina in there. There's no point of another thread talking about essentially the same topic.

Mods can decide.

 

[Syckle78]

My dream scenario: Trade Howard to Pittsburgh for a first. Howard promptly has his annual midseason injury. Comes back after a month and sucks post injury as always. Pittsburgh misses the playoffs. Their pick wins the lotto. Spend the summer gleefully giggling like a child whilst trolling pens fans.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

My dream scenario: Trade Howard to Pittsburgh for a first. Howard promptly has his annual midseason injury. Comes back after a month and sucks post injury as always. Pittsburgh misses the playoffs. Their pick wins the lotto. Spend

Ahahahha. That would be hilarious if Pens gave us Hughes for 3 months of Howard. 2009 pay back.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

My dream scenario: Trade Howard to Pittsburgh for a first. Howard promptly has his annual midseason injury. Comes back after a month and sucks post injury as always. Pittsburgh misses the playoffs. Their pick wins the lotto. Spend the summer gleefully giggling like a child whilst trolling pens fans.

As Keats says to Mick, "you sir, are a beauty"...this was exactly my thought. I'll add that in 2 years we enter the playoffs as a Wildcard and sweep the Pens in the 1st rd. in their last playoff appearance (with this core), & Crysby does what he does best, cries. We have 3 SO's & they only score 1 goal, late in the 4th game. SI captures the moment & coins the cover "The Agony of defeat, Pt.II. Pens never makes the playoffs the rest of Crysby/Malkin/Letang/Kessel/Hornquist's career.

 

[Henkka]

I would be interested getting Murray to Red Wings on that Jimmy deal. He has struggled could rebuild his confidence slowly without that "win-now"-mentality.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I would be interested getting Murray to Red Wings on that Jimmy deal. He has struggled could rebuild his confidence slowly without that "win-now"-mentality.

Seriously doubt Pens do that, but yeah, that'd be awesome. How long is Murray out for?

 

[raymond23]

I would be interested getting Murray to Red Wings on that Jimmy deal. He has struggled could rebuild his confidence slowly without that "win-now"-mentality.

We really need to lower our expectations. Parayko and Murray are not coming back in any deal involving Howard.

 

[The Zermanator]

My dream scenario: Trade Howard to Pittsburgh for a first. Howard promptly has his annual midseason injury. Comes back after a month and sucks post injury as always. Pittsburgh misses the playoffs. Their pick wins the lotto. Spend the summer gleefully giggling like a child whilst trolling pens fans.

And then we re-sign Howard on a cheap 2 yr deal in the offseason

But in all seriousness, if trading Howard can net us another 1st and help our own draft picks be as high as possible, I am ALL over that.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Who would give up a first for Howard?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Who would give up a first for Howard?

No sane GM that's for sure?

 

[BinCookin]

Who would give up a first for Howard?

Well Holmgren is known for making weird choices... So maybe Phi.

I don't see why Pitts would be a buyer for a G at all. But hey maybe smoke... fire?

St.L has no 1st, but id take a prospect or a 2nd.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Who would give up a first for Howard?

Holland.

 

[Oddbob]

Who would give up a first for Howard?

A playoff team like Pittsburgh could finish off with a 26th and later pick, that isn't that much to give up if you think it helps you have a chance at a Cup. Most picks in this range, either don't make it, or are Riley Sheahan like, which is a very small price to pay. We overate picks a lot on the internet, when GMs will look at where the pick actually is, rather than that it technically says 1st round pick.

 

[The Zermanator]

Who would give up a first for Howard?

Well like it was quoted in the OP, the article specifically mentions Philly and Pittsburgh being interested in Howard, and that the Pens have a 1st to dangle. Also the section about Howard mentions Holland holding out for a 1st.

It's not that hard to believe in Pittsburgh's case. As long as they have elite Crosby and Malkin they are in win now mode. And with the team struggling, with a large part of that being due to the goaltending, having a goalie that will help them back into the playoff race may be worth a 1st. There's the old Holland adage that you never know what will happen in the playoffs, and on a team with Crosby and Malkin that definitely rings true. But you don't have that chance if you don't make the playoffs, hence the 1st.

 

[Winger98]

Who would give up a first for Howard?

Realistically, no one. It would take some bizarre confluence of events for some team to pony up that sort of return.

 

[Syckle78]

Who would give up a first for Howard?

Nobody realistically thinks they would. Especially already sitting outside the playoff picture.

 

[Syckle78]

Well Holmgren is known for making weird choices... So maybe Phi.

I don't see why Pitts would be a buyer for a G at all. But hey maybe smoke... fire?

St.L has no 1st, but id take a prospect or a 2nd.

Murray has been terrible and has dealt with injury as well.

 

[RoyalDoubleMcCheesie]

How about Howard for Sprong and a 2nd?

 

[LeighDx59]

My dream scenario: Trade Howard to Pittsburgh for a first. Howard promptly has his annual midseason injury. Comes back after a month and sucks post injury as always. Pittsburgh misses the playoffs. Their pick wins the lotto. Spend the summer gleefully giggling like a child whilst trolling pens fans.

Then imagine our 1st ends up also being a top three pick as well.

 

[avssuc]

My dream scenario: Trade Howard to Pittsburgh for a first. Howard promptly has his annual midseason injury. Comes back after a month and sucks post injury as always. Pittsburgh misses the playoffs. Their pick wins the lotto. Spend the summer gleefully giggling like a child whilst trolling pens fans.

I'd like to see him get a cup, but that's cool too

 

[SCD]

You trade Howard with on a sliding scale return. The deeper the team goes into the playoffs, the higher the pick in return. If they make the conference finals, it is a 1st.