Confirmed with Link: Pens and Coyotes make a trade

[EightyOne]

How is Leighton okay???

Which of his 7 NHL games played over the last 7 years stood out to you??

He will factor into the Pens just as much as Maguire was going to.

Archi was given the Pouliot treatment.

We got a pick that turned in Oleksiak.

It's pretty much a pointless trade. But. Pointless players mean pointless trades. JR could have done EVEN worse than Leighton (ex: Niemi..flipping Condon last year)

 

[Empoleon8771]

If it helps you sleep at night, the trade was Archibald for Oleksiak and Maguire and a 6th for Leighton. There's no reason to be mad about those trades, those are fine deals. Nothing special, but nothing bad.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Too bad about Archie, he never really got a fair shake here. I didn't like or understand the trade until I saw the 4th flipped for Oleksiak - the wheels are in motion now, we just don't have the big picture yet. Looks to me like we'll be dealing a defenseman shortly to address our center issue.

 

[Shaffer]

I prefer Archi over Kuhn and Reaves easily, but farewells!

Wait for the right deal here JR, Dilly Dilly!

 

[PensandCaps]

Jarry going in bigger trade. Leighton is the new backup?

Lol no. WBS help. Leighton is horrendous.

 

[Shady Machine]

Hunwick’s been fine to me. Maybe a few rough games, far fewer than some of our other d-men. He’s an adequate #6 and his skating fits the team identity.

At the very least, he's a bad allocation of cap resources. When you already have 21MM locked up in your top 4, you need cheap players filling your bottom pairing. Unfortunately, we didn't have any prospects to promote, but I fail to see the need for a 2.25MM adequate number 6. Obviously JR and Co thought he could be a 4/5 and maybe he will be, but right now he's a 6 and too expensive for that role.

 

[Peat]

I liked Archibald, but he's nothing that can't be replaced by WBS players. Di Pauli in particular sounds like Archibald mk.2 at worst and Rust mk.2 at best. I'm always down for trading surplus to patch a weakness.

I'm a bit bemused and maybe concerned that we've done two bottom 6 wing trades and Kuhnhackl is the guy still standing though.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Pointless.

 

[Captain Hook]

I understand the point to it. They wanted a goalie for WBS with Jarry in the NHL and they got a pick that they could flip for a depth D-Man that they like. All of this potentially will allow them to flip another one of their depth defenders in a bigger trade.

I liked Archie but he's just a guy. I am concerned that we continue to drift away from guys like him that fit the speed identity that won us back to back Cups. JR seems rather obsessed with grit this year.

 

[UnderratedBrooks44]

At the very least, he's a bad allocation of cap resources. When you already have 21MM locked up in your top 4, you need cheap players filling your bottom pairing. Unfortunately, we didn't have any prospects to promote, but I fail to see the need for a 2.25MM adequate number 6. Obviously JR and Co thought he could be a 4/5 and maybe he will be, but right now he's a 6 and too expensive for that role.

And I think you're being kind too. I really don't think Hunwick has played well. Wouldn't be the first D to come to a new team and take awhile to get settled, I just never saw the impetus to sign a 32 year old journeyman to any kind of contract. I hope it was because they couldn't find anyone else. The anecdote about him playing well against AO for a few games doesn't actually take anyone that far, and I'm sure it was more out of necessity. If the Leafs had a fairly strong defense I imagine Hunwick is nowhere near that matchup.

I understand the point to it. They wanted a goalie for WBS with Jarry in the NHL and they got a pick that they could flip for a depth D-Man that they like. All of this potentially will allow them to flip another one of their depth defenders in a bigger trade.

I liked Archie but he's just a guy. I am concerned that we continue to drift away from guys like him that fit the speed identity that won us back to back Cups. JR seems rather obsessed with grit this year.

I don't want to stray too far from what's worked either, but I think they wanted Reaves and Oleksiak is a potential reclamation project that just happens to be huge. I don't think it's a strong signal of anything. That said, I also want to see the speed game that was our bread and butter. It hasn't been on display a whole lot this year, well not counting what our opponents are doing to us.

 

[td_ice]

GMJR on Archibald.

"We like him, but it was a matter of when we were going to get him in the lineup. We've had him around he hasn't gotten much playing time. Look at our team, how many more small guys can you have? Despite the fact we feel he'll play in the league and do well in Phoenix, we felt he was expendable."

 

[DegenX]

GMJR on Archibald.

"We like him, but it was a matter of when we were going to get him in the lineup. We've had him around he hasn't gotten much playing time. Look at our team, how many more small guys can you have? Despite the fact we feel he'll play in the league and do well in Phoenix, we felt he was expendable."

That's ... interesting. I don't even want to read into that.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

GMJR on Archibald.

"We like him, but it was a matter of when we were going to get him in the lineup. We've had him around he hasn't gotten much playing time. Look at our team, how many more small guys can you have? Despite the fact we feel he'll play in the league and do well in Phoenix, we felt he was expendable."

Please get lotsa points Dominik.

 

[Pens x]

It was nice to see the fourth line play well for one night.

 

[td_ice]

That's ... interesting. I don't even want to read into that.

I read that as, " I can't make the coach play him if he doesn't like him, even though I do. And if he isn't going to play him, then he's a wasted asset. So might as well get anything I can for him."

 

[UnderratedBrooks44]

Maybe he thinks their lineup is a little small in general. It could just mean exactly what he's saying in words. Crazy I know.

Anytime anyone makes even a veiled attempt to insinuate that smaller players might not be as able in certain areas of the game than bigger ones, everyone goes ape shit thinking that person wants a bunch of big, slow guys. Nuance, my friends.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I read that as, " I can't make the coach play him if he doesn't like him, even though I do. And if isn't going to play him, then he's a wasted asset. So might as well get anything I can for him."

Adams' ghost will have his revenge on us all for slighting him.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Hopefully JR doesn't like Kuhn and trades him despite the fact that Sullivan is in love with him.

 

[Malkinstheman]

I dont know, seems like the love for Kuhn has worn off. Simon has taken his spot for the last few games. It took two forwards being out for kuhn to get back in.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I also think it's possible that Simon's emergence in the NHL made Archibald even more expendable than he already was. When Rutherford mentions "many small forwards", he's actually right, especially if Simon is an everyday NHLer now.

 

[ColePens]

GMJR on Archibald.

"We like him, but it was a matter of when we were going to get him in the lineup. We've had him around he hasn't gotten much playing time. Look at our team, how many more small guys can you have? Despite the fact we feel he'll play in the league and do well in Phoenix, we felt he was expendable."

This comment pisses me off to no end. The reason why we were great defensively is because speedy wingers backchecked the hell out of other teams and the play was constantly in the o-zone. All these big guys and d-specialists aren't doing a damn thing. Keep to the identity, like you said over and over and over again.

If that's JR's mindset now, he completely and utterly missed why we were so successful. And it's stupid. And I always say, you have to analyze real time. You can be a person who claims things will suck or be great, but you can't do that in the NHL. You have to see how the plan is being delivered and then analyze. Right now - those remarks do not match up with what he said all through the Cup runs. Thus - I think it's stupid and idiotic.

 

[KIRK]

This comment pisses me off to no end. The reason why we were great defensively is because speedy wingers backchecked the hell out of other teams and the play was constantly in the o-zone. All these big guys and d-specialists aren't doing a damn thing. Keep to the identity, like you said over and over and over again.

If that's JR's mindset now, he completely and utterly missed why we were so successful. And it's stupid. And I always say, you have to analyze real time. You can be a person who claims things will suck or be great, but you can't do that in the NHL. You have to see how the plan is being delivered and then analyze. Right now - those remarks do not match up with what he said all through the Cup runs. Thus - I think it's stupid and idiotic.

How many soft fast midgets should a team have?

I get being pissed off at the quote, but I'd like to add a few fast non-midgets personally.