Penguins record with Maatta in lineup this season?

[Gurglesons]

Context is important and I think in your ass round about way, you're trying to say it. Malkin usually goes god mode during that time and those numbers are misleading because of it.

But Olli Maatta is ass and you're still wrong.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

*insert MSPaint of SouthGeorge’s face*

Doesn't this also include Sid's rookie year, when the Pens were awful? I'd be surprised if it didn't.

 

[Jacob]

Just checked the Penguins record without Johnson... Yikes!

 

[Gurglesons]

Just checked the Penguins record without Johnson... Yikes!

Wonder how many people will get how funny this is.

 

[MartinS82]

*insert MSPaint of SouthGeorge’s face*

A certain main board poster-who-shall-not-be named just got a text alert. He's on his way with Secondary Assist Links, Dirty Play videos, and overrated defense claims.

 

[66-30-33]

Just checked the Penguins record without Johnson... Yikes!

Dating back to the year he was born.

 

[ColePens]

Regular Season

30-22-10 with Maatta

14-4-2 without Maatta

Yikes

Yeah im not a fan of these type of stats. Im about as anti-Maatta as it gets for this team and I don't like this stat. It's just cherry picking.

Want a combative stat? We've won 2 Cups with Maatta. Boom. Done.

 

[StaalForOne]

That's all time without Letang? Or just this year and last SC run?

That's this season, with Letang. I thought that's what you had asked for. I missed the "all time" spot, but I don't know how to get all that info without downloading each individual season. Maybe tomorrow I'll look at it if I feel like it ha.

My math might be off, but do those numbers add up to the games this season?

It's just the games that Letang played (65)

 

[SouthGeorge]

That's this season, with Letang. I thought that's what you had asked for. I missed the "all time" spot, but I don't know how to get all that info without downloading each individual season. Maybe tomorrow I'll look at it if I feel like it ha.



It's just the games that Letang played (65)

We wanted without. So 10-5-2 without him. About right on par with or without him.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Want a combative stat? We've won 2 Cups with Maatta. Boom. Done.

Couple of things there.
Olli's play is declining mainly because the league is getting faster while theres no real uptick in his strength/energy.

He had a notch better support with the likes of Daley, Lovejoy, Cole but he was a notch better himself and the league was at a pace he could keep up with.

The declining part comes in where Olli-Schultz would be a good pair in '16 and '17 but Olli can't anchor an offensive guy on defense anymore.
Olli's the same as JJ, an overpaid 3rd pairing D-Man.

In the end, it's terrible luck with Olli's obvious energy issues probably due to the cancer surgery and was a bad gamble on him vs pushing a guy like Cole out and letting Daley walk.

 

[ColePens]

OG - I've been saying for a long time that Olli is a top 4 guy in the west and the Pens are the worst team for him ever. HE just needs out of here. ASAP. So i'm with you on your assessment.

The record with/without is not a fair assessment of his play.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

OG - I've been saying for a long time that Olli is a top 4 guy in the west and the Pens are the worst team for him ever. HE just needs out of here. ASAP. So i'm with you on your assessment.

The record with/without is not a fair assessment of his play.

Yeah but we're 0-421-2 with him in the line-up.

HE f***ING SUCKS MAN.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

A certain main board poster-who-shall-not-be named just got a text alert. He's on his way with Secondary Assist Links, Dirty Play videos, and overrated defense claims.

How does this all pertain to Jack Johnson Super Fan, @pixiesfanyo ?

 

[molon labe]

Kunitz has amazing Corsi and has been around for a long time! He's great in interviews and brings physicality. Just because of ONE bad game you're all ready to trade him??? Tell me, without him - who's supposed to play with Sid? Not every forward can be a 30 goal scorer...

No clue what you guys are on about...especially this stuff about 'eye test' and ruining passes by Sid?? How about real facts, okay?

 

[PensPlz]

Regular Season

30-22-10 with Maatta

14-4-2 without Maatta

Yikes

Yikes indeed.

Maatta getting hurt might be the only reason we made the playoffs.

 

[BladeRunner66]

Kunitz has amazing Corsi and has been around for a long time! He's great in interviews and brings physicality. Just because of ONE bad game you're all ready to trade him??? Tell me, without him - who's supposed to play with Sid? Not every forward can be a 30 goal scorer...

No clue what you guys are on about...especially this stuff about 'eye test' and ruining passes by Sid?? How about real facts, okay?

Well... "Kunitz was there", i'll give you that.

 

[madinsomniac]

I agree with Cole... maatta’s strengths line up with a meticulous structured system and not one with the ad libbing and freewheeling style we tend to play... to the right team in the west he is easily going to be a good second pair guy... he just gets in the worse situations here... its like guds... ... hideous in Vancouver but serviceable here thus far....

 

[larueskee]

Yeah im not a fan of these type of stats. Im about as anti-Maatta as it gets for this team and I don't like this stat. It's just cherry picking.

Want a combative stat? We've won 2 Cups with Maatta. Boom. Done.

You won two cups despite Maata. The guy is awful and Rutherford gave him 4 years at 4 million.

 

[Andy99]

Has anyone seen JJ these last two games? Come on...Maatta should be back in the lineup for Game 4...no matter how slow he is, he can at least move the puck quicker than JJ, who actively hurts O zone possession...

 

[ArthurNHL]

Reading these comments I really hope that Olli gets a better squad and fans.

 

[Tender Rip]

That good?

Honestly, the REAL numbers are damning enough.

We're just below a .500 club with him playing and we're a .700 club with him on the shelf.

Now do Letang....

I don't believe in these "in a vacuum" things. Ultimately we took out Maatta after game 1 of the Isles series and were more badly outplayed in the next three. It didn't... Maatta.

Oh... just saw Pixies with Crosby.... yeah, trade that guy. Don't need him !

 

[3074326]

Reading these comments I really hope that Olli gets a better squad and fans.

He was really bad and I don't think he would disagree.

 

[JRS91]

Regular Season

30-22-10 with Maatta

14-4-2 without Maatta

Yikes

One day the Penguins will trade Maatta for Tanev.

I'll be happy when they finally do. The guy just doesn't fit. I don't even care if Tanev is a RHD on the right side, make room for him.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Reading these comments I really hope that Olli gets a better squad and fans.

Maybe you should follow him to his new team, in the slow fashion in which he moves and thinks.

 

[Turin]

Maatta can still think the game 5x faster than Johnson, so I find it hard to muster up angst about him. It was good times when he was the lone whipping boy.