Speculation: Penguins: All Your Folignos Are Belong To Us

[Headshot77]

Minnesota needs centers badly. Jared McCann is 25, an RFA, and looked half-decent in the middle-six.

McCann for M. Foligno

Patrick Hornqvist seems like the kind of player Tortarella would salivate over, easily one of the hardest working players on the Pens. He earns 200,000 less than N. Foligno, is only 1 year older, produces about the same amount as him (32 points in 52 games for Hornqvist last season, compared to 31 points in 67 games for N. Foligno)

Hornqvist for N. Foligno

Run a third line of Foligno-Foligno-Tanev and have the punjabi announcer come back for us, chanting FOLIGNOFOLIGNOFOLIGNOFOLIGNO!

(This thread is not 100% serious)

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[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

You should also offer a mid/late-round pick to Montreal for Christian Folin.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

as much as wild need a c, you are going to have to convince Guerin to let go of Foligno. As of right now, wild are trying to resign Foligno

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Minnesota needs centers badly. Jared McCann is 25, an RFA, and looked half-decent in the middle-six.

McCann for M. Foligno

Patrick Hornqvist seems like the kind of player Tortarella would salivate over, easily one of the hardest working players on the Pens. He earns 200,000 less than N. Foligno, is only 1 year older, produces about the same amount as him (32 points in 52 games for Hornqvist last season, compared to 31 points in 67 games for M. Foligno)

Hornqvist for N. Foligno

Run a third line of Foligno-Foligno-Tanev and have the punjabi announcer come back for us, chanting FOLIGNOFOLIGNOFOLIGNOFOLIGNO!

(This thread is not 100% serious)

I'm down, if for anything to prevent Guerin from signing him to the 4 x $3M+ extension that I'm fearful of, but McCann is also semi intriguing on his own.

 

[Headshot77]

You should also offer a mid/late-round pick to Montreal for Christian Folin.

I like the way you think.

 

[2Pair]

Minnesota says yes so fast

 

[Mrfenn92]

Jackets say no easily.

 

[Ryder71]

Minnesota needs centers badly. Jared McCann is 25, an RFA, and looked half-decent in the middle-six.

McCann for M. Foligno

Patrick Hornqvist seems like the kind of player Tortarella would salivate over, easily one of the hardest working players on the Pens. He earns 200,000 less than N. Foligno, is only 1 year older, produces about the same amount as him (32 points in 52 games for Hornqvist last season, compared to 31 points in 67 games for M. Foligno)

Hornqvist for N. Foligno

Run a third line of Foligno-Foligno-Tanev and have the punjabi announcer come back for us, chanting FOLIGNOFOLIGNOFOLIGNOFOLIGNO!

(This thread is not 100% serious)

I wish such deals could happen.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Jackets say no easily.

Foligno stats: 212 games, 42 goals and 99 points
Hornqvist stats: 191 games, 64 goals and 118 points

Not really sure what basis there is for Columbus saying no "easily". It's basically an even swap of two very similarly talented players who make similar money and are a similar age, with Foligno likely being a little bit worse.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

If you're going to get the Folignos, you're going to have to reacquire Bonino too. It's the rules.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Foligno stats: 212 games, 42 goals and 99 points
Hornqvist stats: 191 games, 64 goals and 118 points

Not really sure what basis there is for Columbus saying no "easily". It's basically an even swap of two very similarly talented players who make similar money and are a similar age, with Foligno likely being a little bit worse.

Foligno is their captain. Contract end in a year compared to horny with what 2 or 3 years left. Jackets are pretty well set on right wing. Atkinson, Bjorkstrand, Anderson? and Bemstrom

 

[BigFatCat999]

If you're going to get the Folignos, you're going to have to reacquire Bonino too. It's the rules.

I was going to post this:

Foligno-Bonino-Foligno

 

[majormajor]

Foligno stats: 212 games, 42 goals and 99 points
Hornqvist stats: 191 games, 64 goals and 118 points

Not really sure what basis there is for Columbus saying no "easily". It's basically an even swap of two very similarly talented players who make similar money and are a similar age, with Foligno likely being a little bit worse.

Foligno has mostly been used in a defensive shutdown capacity next to Boone Jenner. He was on five or six Selke ballots and led all NHL forwards in TOI at the time his team exited the playoffs. Hornqvist has bounced around but you can guess at who two of his most common centers have been. He's degraded more. Foligno has lost his scoring touch but is better than ever defensively. Also, you know, the leader of the team.

 

[AKL]

Not that I have an issue with McCann for Foligno regardless of the answer to the following, but isn't McCann kinda being chased out of Pittsburgh because he can't play center? I could be wrong but I thought I read somewhere on this board that a lot of Pens fans agree he shouldn't be a center.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Foligno has mostly been used in a defensive shutdown capacity next to Boone Jenner. He was on five or six Selke ballots and led all NHL forwards in TOI at the time his team exited the playoffs. Hornqvist has bounced around but you can guess at who two of his most common centers have been. He's degraded more. Foligno has lost his scoring touch but is better than ever defensively. Also, you know, the leader of the team.

Oh come on, he got 6 5th place votes. ZAR got 1 4th place vote and 1 5th place vote and you'll probably see the Penguins dump him for like a 4th round pick this off-season. Selke voting at that level is pointless. Freaking Artemi Panarin got a 1st place vote.

I don't doubt that Foligno is good defensively, but the reasons you mentioned don't show that he's noticeably better defensively than Hornqvist. Hornqvist's defensive analytics are pretty strong himself.

 

[majormajor]

Oh come on, he got 6 5th place votes. ZAR got 1 4th place vote and 1 5th place vote and you'll probably see the Penguins dump him for like a 4th round pick this off-season. Selke voting at that level is pointless. Freaking Artemi Panarin got a 1st place vote.

I don't doubt that Foligno is good defensively, but the reasons you mentioned don't show that he's noticeably better defensively than Hornqvist. Hornqvist's defensive analytics are pretty strong himself.

Sure but I'm not the greatest writer on the planet, I can't paint you a picture with words of how good Foligno has been without the puck. Sometimes other people's opinions are as good a story as you'll get.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Not that I have an issue with McCann for Foligno regardless of the answer to the following, but isn't McCann kinda being chased out of Pittsburgh because he can't play center? I could be wrong but I thought I read somewhere on this board that a lot of Pens fans agree he shouldn't be a center.

He's not good enough offensively to be a 2C on an offensively-minded team and not good enough defensively to be a 3C on a team that uses its 3C to take its difficult matchups, but one could argue that he'd be a good 2C on a defensively-minded team that uses its 2C a little bit defensively and doesn't require a ton of offense from their 2C.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

I was going to post this:

Foligno-Bonino-Foligno

With Marino and Folin on the blueline.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

ZAR got 1 4th place vote and 1 5th place vote and you'll probably see the Penguins dump him for like a 4th round pick this off-season.

That would be incredibly stupid.

 

[OCPenguin]

Foligno stats: 212 games, 42 goals and 99 points
Hornqvist stats: 191 games, 64 goals and 118 points

Not really sure what basis there is for Columbus saying no "easily". It's basically an even swap of two very similarly talented players who make similar money and are a similar age, with Foligno likely being a little bit worse.

Horny has two years left at 5.3 and is oft injured whereas Foligno has one year at 5.5? Putting stats is cute up, but maybe just maybe Horny's stats are better because he has played many games with some guy named Sid.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Not that I have an issue with McCann for Foligno regardless of the answer to the following, but isn't McCann kinda being chased out of Pittsburgh because he can't play center? I could be wrong but I thought I read somewhere on this board that a lot of Pens fans agree he shouldn't be a center.

His best play was at 2C this year when 87 was hurt and he had half decent linemates. I think they’re more exploring what he’d fetch in a trade due to his RFA status.

But no, he couldn’t stick at 3C. It’s weird. Then again nobody since Bonino can.

McCann’s really talented so I think on a team like Minnesota —where he’ll get decent wingers and some top 6 opportunity, as well as a defined role— he could actually be pretty good. No guarantee but I wouldn’t be surprised to see that.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

His best play was at 2C this year when 87 was hurt and he had half decent linemates. I think they’re more exploring what he’d fetch in a trade due to his RFA status.

But no, he couldn’t stick at 3C. It’s weird. Then again nobody since Bonino can.

McCann’s really talented so I think on a team like Minnesota —where he’ll get decent wingers and some top 6 opportunity, as well as a defined role— he could actually be pretty good. No guarantee but I wouldn’t be surprised to see that.

As much I would like a c, it's just not happening that Guerin is trading foligno unless overpayed or negotiations go wrong because right now Foligno & spurgeon are only two in mix for next wild captain

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

His best play was at 2C this year when 87 was hurt and he had half decent linemates. I think they’re more exploring what he’d fetch in a trade due to his RFA status.

But no, he couldn’t stick at 3C. It’s weird. Then again nobody since Bonino can.

McCann’s really talented so I think on a team like Minnesota —where he’ll get decent wingers and some top 6 opportunity, as well as a defined role— he could actually be pretty good. No guarantee but I wouldn’t be surprised to see that.

Hypothetically, a Kaprizov/McCann/Zuccarello 2nd line would sound like what to you? Assuming Kaprizov is somewhere close to the hype.

 

[Spazkat]

Horny has two years left at 5.3 and is oft injured whereas Foligno has one year at 5.5? Putting stats is cute up, but maybe just maybe Horny's stats are better because he has played many games with some guy named Sid.

Hornqvist has 3 years, not 2 - hes signed until 2023.

 

[Gurglesons]

Marino to Foligno to Foligno to Bonino. He scorinos!

Too bad Steiggy is gone.