Confirmed with Link: Penguins acquire defenseman John Marino

[kladorf2005]

We really suck right now, so I decided to bump this thread to cheer us up! Just pulled a couple quotes off the first page for giggles . I remember reading @Randy Butternubs' post at the time and audibly laughing in my office to the point where people were staring at me!

It’s happening?

Alot of people seem to think he'll have an NHL career, so thats good.

one of the worst defensive teams in the league gave him up for a condition 6th in 2 years, so consider that before HFing him right into your mock lineups

Seems ok. Is he much of an upgrade on Ryan Jones and Will Reilly?

Maybe a little better than Reilly? Kinda hard to tell. Either having both Walsh and Fox kept his numbers down bc he was behind them or playing with Walsh inflated them.

 

[Hamurai]

f*** I thought we acquired him again and now have two John Marinos

 

[Crosbyfan]

f*** I thought we acquired him again and now have two John Marinos

Can't have too many John Marinos...

 

[Corvidae]

We really suck right now, so I decided to bump this thread to cheer us up! Just pulled a couple quotes off the first page for giggles . I remember reading @Randy Butternubs' post at the time and audibly laughing in my office to the point where people were staring at me!

I have zero problems looking like a dumbass here. What a wonderful surprise.

 

[Shockmaster]

What made the Oilers want to get rid of this guy again? They don't exactly have a bunch of Bobby Orrs in their pipeline.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

What made the Oilers want to get rid of this guy again? They don't exactly have a bunch of Bobby Orrs in their pipeline.

He refused to sign with them so they were going to lose him for nothing.

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

Marino is more of the guy you pair the PMD with, not the PMD.

I think Marino has definitely enough skill to put up the points needed to be a good offensive defenseman. What makes Marino really good though is that he has the defensive skills of a Dumoulin with much more offensive ability. Marino in his rookie season was close to a 40 point defenseman over an 82 game schedule and he did that without being the man and not the PP time. I could very easily see Matheson and Marino putting up nice offensive numbers on this team. I think Marino could very easily become a 45+ point defenseman and with his overall game that is plenty enough to be a teams number 1. Maybe Marino won't develop more but even if he stayed the same he already could easily get 45+ points just by being that top pairing defenseman and more PP time. What are we talking about to get that? Less than 10 points needed with increased ice time and PP. That seems very doable just at the pace he showed last season.

 

[66-30-33]

Seems ok. Is he much of an upgrade on Ryan Jones and Will Reilly?

Yup.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Still only a marginal prospect at best, he'll be lucky to even play a game in his career.

 

[Rakell67]

Is he related in any way to the John Marino we already have?

 

[SpeedyPotato]

What the hell is going on with this guy? Asking you guys cause I don't follow the pens but I drafted him in my fantasy league expecting a bit of offense and nothing.. is he creating things out there at least?

 

[ChaosAgent]

What the hell is going on with this guy? Asking you guys cause I don't follow the pens but I drafted him in my fantasy league expecting a bit of offense and nothing.. is he creating things out there at least?

He's been a little bit of a disaster but has been getting better.

Defensively the Penguins have had a lot of LD out so they've been playing him on his off-side and he was quite bad there. Now that we have Matheson back and Petts coming back soon he won't be on that side moving forward.

Having said that, from a fantasy perspective I'm not expecting him to get much PP time (maybe PP2 along with Matheson) so I wouldn't bank on much offense out of him.

 

[66-30-33]

Having your normal soffmore season, but his IQ is too high for him to be a bad dman over the long haul.

 

[Gurglesons]

What the hell is going on with this guy? Asking you guys cause I don't follow the pens but I drafted him in my fantasy league expecting a bit of offense and nothing.. is he creating things out there at least?

Why would you draft him for offense?

 

[SpeedyPotato]

Why would you draft him for offense?

Just as a complementary player, he did get 26 in 56 last year, I thought he had 25-30 upside this year.

 

[Gurglesons]

Just as a complementary player, he did get 26 in 56 last year, I thought he had 25-30 upside this year.

How deep is your league?

 

[SpeedyPotato]

How deep is your league?

It's pretty deep and it's dynasty with a cap so good dmen are never traded or available.

 

[Pens x]

What the hell is going on with this guy? Asking you guys cause I don't follow the pens but I drafted him in my fantasy league expecting a bit of offense and nothing.. is he creating things out there at least?

You drafted Marino for his offense?

 

[Gurglesons]

It's pretty deep and it's dynasty with a cap so good dmen are never traded or available.

Makes sense. I don’t think many of us saw Marino being above a 30 pt guy. He’s horrible on the PP and a lot of his offensive play is transition versus skill plays.

 

[HandshakeLine]

What the hell is going on with this guy? Asking you guys cause I don't follow the pens but I drafted him in my fantasy league expecting a bit of offense and nothing.. is he creating things out there at least?

He didn't really create offense last year, so you probably should have watched the games a bit more.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

It's pretty deep and it's dynasty with a cap so good dmen are never traded or available.

I have guys on Marino's tier in a keeper league...hell, I've had Esa Lindell on my team for 4 years now, I think...I mean, I've never protected Lindell, he just never gets drafted and is just better than the kind of player you can skim off of the free agent pile.

I wouldn't expect Marino to be much better than Lindell for fantasy purposes. He'll likely be more valuable than someone like Dumoulin ever was in fantasy, but you're still talking about someone who only has fantasy value if your alternatives are Alex Edler & Brenden Dillon (the top D FAs in my deep keeper league).

I'd be surprised if Marino's 26 point rookie season ends up being a career high, but I wouldn't be surprised if his 26 in 56 pace (.46 ppg) ends up being his best pace. He is not the kind of defenseman I'd expect 30 points from a season. 20-25? Sounds reasonable.

 

[SpeedyPotato]

You drafted Marino for his offense?

Ok.. I said I wasn't a pens fan, guy had a pretty good ppg, he was signed to a fat contract but this year he costs nothing and my league has a cap, I'll admit I was stat watching.. I'm pretty sure you do that sometimes.

 

[SpeedyPotato]

He didn't really create offense last year, so you probably should have watched the games a bit more.

Not a pens fan, only games I saw were when we best you in the play-in round.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Cool, fantasy hockey is trash.

 

[EightyOne]

CAN THIS THREAD BE LOCKED AND DISCUSSION TAKEN TO OFF DAY THREAD

sick of seeing a dman confirmed with link trade thread popping up and giving me a heart attack