Confirmed with Link: Penguins acquire defenseman John Marino

What happened to your JJ scenarios, you architect bastard?

 

Joseph? Isn't he more of an offensive defenseman who still needs some work defensively? At least that's the impression I got about him in his draft year. Haven't really followed his progress since then.

 

Everything ive read seems to indicate the exact opposite. Super smart but doesnt have alot of talent. Hes supposed to be a steady guy that wont put up alot of points.

 

From what I can tell no, he’s exactly in the Pettersson mould

 

So Marino could hopefully replace Gudbranson soon.

 

Or Schultz?

Dumoulin Letang
Pettersson Marino
Almari/Joseph Gudbranson
Johnson Ruhwedel

 

easy...….even I was wrong a while back...………….ok ….. so I only thought I was wrong but I was actually right. but that's close enough.

 

I meant after Gudbranson’s contract was done. Hopefully it’d look like:

Dumoulin-Letang
Pettersson-UFA (maybe Schultz)
Riikola/Joseph-Marino/Ruhwedel

I’ve also learned my lesson of writing prospects into lineups at too high a position (2nd pairing).

 

I've tried to edit my latest post at least 5 times and every time an ad has interrupted.

Like I was trying to say, the prospects need to play a number of NHL games for me to be comfortable penciling them into the lineup at a significant position.

And I'm not sold on Almari.

 

Don't see a big production jump on the cards even with Adam Fox leaving. Reilly Walsh (Devils 3rd rounder 2017) and Jack Rathbone (Canucks 4th Rounder 2017) are both returning and scored 31 and 22 points respectively. Also Havard are bringing in Henry Thrun who scored 23 in 28 for the USNTDP (Ducks 4th rounder 2019). If he could hit 15 points while being a top pairing guy then that would be a good year I think.

 

I don't see the sort of puck movers there needed to replace Schultz. I'd be pretty dubious about more than one of those prospects being ready by next season anyway.

If we did use Marino to replace Schultz, we'd need to pick up a serious duty PMD LD and 13 sorcerers to ensure Letang never, ever, ever got injured.

 

What pairing was he on? He, Fox and the other guy are all righties. Was someone on their off side or was Marino on the 3rd?

 

Yep. Even if all those prospects (with the exception of Addison) turn into our best expectations of them (aka basically Dumoulin or MP)... none of them will be able to replace Schultz in terms of how they play the game. We either need Addison to hit or we will desperately need to find someone else who can fill that role.

And the likelyhood of Marino doing anything in the next season or so is probably pretty slim.

 

He played with Walsh in the top 4

 

Canadian media is hilarious...

"Marginal prospect..."

Meanwhile, The Hockey News seems to think otherwise.





To me, Marino seems like more of a Dumoulin/Pettersson type of defender. He's not the kind of guy that will be a 40pt guy, but maybe more so a 25-30pt guy that is a solid reliable partner. He was paired with a better OFD and seemed to do well in the role of a support partner with an offensive defenseman on his left side.

 

I see he plays both sides in this game and looked to be on the pp.

 

Marino is more of the guy you pair the PMD with, not the PMD.

 

I think this is a very underrated aspect to GMJR for all of the win now draft pick trades he has been able to patch the system with close to ready prospects on cheap deals.

Whether is UDFAs like Johnson and ZAR etc

Europe FAs Riikola, took worthwhile shots on Plotnikov and Bentgsson (sp) despite the results

This offseason alone he has added two guys with legit NHL chances in Marino and PO Joseph one as an add on for value in a trade we all knew he had to make and one for a comditional 6th

 

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about Marino other than his stats and particulars, but taken in isolation they sound like the definition of a marginal prospect. Maybe the Pens found a diamond in the rough, but expecting a Dumo/Pettersson type seems like wishful thinking.

The Hockey News article doesn't really make Marino out to be more than a marginal prospect at this point either.

 

From what I've read, he seems like he's more in the Lauzon mold. Good skater, strong defensively, plays with an edge, smart, questions about offensive ability.

 

Marginal as in won't amount to much as a player if he gets there, or marginal as in unlikely to get there at all? Because while he doesn't sound high end, I'd say the general buzz - including THN article - makes it sound like he's got a decent chance of being the sort of lower end reliable guy whose limitations means he's ideally not deployed above 3rd pairing but will do you proud there.

 

I'd say a prospect that likely tops out as a 3rd pairing defender if things go well and hasn't played a lick of pro hockey yet qualifies as marginal.

Not taking anything away from the kid.

 

And miss the Malone/Brister years? No thanks!

 

Probably a good chance to play in the NHL some day, but stick? Guys like him (and the Straits, Welchs, Lannons, Samuelssons) are abundant with a small number of openings for them.

 

Fair enough - just checking what you meant as everyone has their own definitions here.