Post-Game Talk: Penguins 5, Red Wings 2 - #81, #19 Almost Get HT's; ZAR Almost Does Something

[Dipsy Doodle]

Trading Schultz would be dumb. Oleksiak is still our 2nd highest scoring d, and our transition game after our top pairing is doodoo. Schultz is not only a great 2nd pair RH PMD, he's a lot better in his own end than he gets credit for.

He makes the Pens a much better team and I'm counting the days 'til he gets back. I just hope he can round back into form fairly quickly...getting a guy like Green as a contingency plan would be my ideal.

Just trade Maatta or healthy scratch JJ if the only way he's semi-useful is when Pettersson's babysitting him. Having Schultz in the line-up is more important than trying to buoy JJ's value.

 

[Peat]

I think I realized what it is: I fully think Pettersson is better than Maatta right now. Scratching Pettersson to keep Maatta in the lineup just seems wrong to me. Maatta hasn't even been bad recently from what I've seen, he had a good game right before the Christmas break and I don't think he was bad last night. I just think Pettersson is better and is their 3rd best defenseman right now, so any result of Pettersson getting scratched is something I don't like.

If he continues to be their 3rd best dman, then he probably won't be the one getting scratched. Personally I think that's a pretty lofty assessment of a guy playing 3rd pairing assignments and getting much the same possession metric problems that are levelled at other guys.

 

[Empoleon8771]

If he continues to be their 3rd best dman, then he probably won't be the one getting scratched. Personally I think that's a pretty lofty assessment of a guy playing 3rd pairing assignments and getting much the same possession metric problems that are levelled at other guys.

If you want to look at possession metrics, Pettersson is actually doing dramatically better than all of Johnson, Maatta, Oleksiak and Riikola. Pettersson is at a -0.4% CF%Rel and +4.36% HDCF%Rel since coming to the Penguins with getting 47.4% offensive zone starts%. That's actually really good overall, not just in the context of the rest of the team. Over the same sample size, here is what the numbers of their other defensemen not named Dumoulin and Letang look like:

-Johnson: -4.76% CF%Rel with 47.66% offensive zone start%
-Maatta: -8.93% CF%Rel with 44.14% offensive zone start%
-Oleksiak: -8.47% CF%Rel with 36.49% offensive zone start%
-Riikola: -12.40% CF%Rel with 52.5% offensive zone start%

Not only does Pettersson have pretty good basic CF% numbers, his HDCF numbers are also great. If you want to look at possession metrics, Pettersson has been a huge difference for the bottom-4 defensemen. His possession metrics are actually really good.

 

[Peat]

If you want to look at possession metrics, Pettersson is actually doing dramatically better than all of Johnson, Maatta, Oleksiak and Riikola. Pettersson is at about a -0.4% CF%Rel since coming to the Penguins with getting 48.2% offensive zone starts%. That's actually pretty good overall, not just in the context of the rest of the team. Over the same sample size, here is what the numbers of their other defensemen not named Dumoulin and Letang look like:

-Johnson: -4.76% CF%Rel with 47.66% offensive zone start%
-Maatta: -8.93% CF%Rel with 44.14% offensive zone start%
-Oleksiak: -8.47% CF%Rel with 36.49% offensive zone start%
-Riikola: -12.40% CF%Rel with 52.5% offensive zone start%

Not only does Pettersson have pretty good basic CF% numbers, his HDCF numbers are also great. If you want to look at possession metrics, Pettersson has been a huge difference for the bottom-4 defensemen. His possession metrics are actually really good.

Huh. Fair enough. Last I looked it was all a lot closer together.

 

[Gurglesons]

If you want to look at possession metrics, Pettersson is actually doing dramatically better than all of Johnson, Maatta, Oleksiak and Riikola. Pettersson is at a -0.4% CF%Rel and +4.36% HDCF%Rel since coming to the Penguins with getting 47.4% offensive zone starts%. That's actually really good overall, not just in the context of the rest of the team. Over the same sample size, here is what the numbers of their other defensemen not named Dumoulin and Letang look like:

-Johnson: -4.76% CF%Rel with 47.66% offensive zone start%
-Maatta: -8.93% CF%Rel with 44.14% offensive zone start%
-Oleksiak: -8.47% CF%Rel with 36.49% offensive zone start%
-Riikola: -12.40% CF%Rel with 52.5% offensive zone start%

Not only does Pettersson have pretty good basic CF% numbers, his HDCF numbers are also great. If you want to look at possession metrics, Pettersson has been a huge difference for the bottom-4 defensemen. His possession metrics are actually really good.

I’m a huge MP fan, but I wouldn’t be throwing him into the fire anymore than we already have by pairing him with JJ.

I’d test him with Schultz when he gets back and see how it goes.

 

[Sorry]

Someone needs to teach Riikola to shorten his wind up. It’s ridiculous. He has a good shot but it’ll get blocked every single time taking that long in his backswing.

 

[ncm7772]

So really 10%....

Classic!

 

[ncm7772]

Not just saying this because I'm a fan of his, but the most encouraging aspect of the Pens' recent play is Murray. I think we all agreed that the most important thing that needed to happen was Murray becoming Murray again. *Knock on wood* that is starting to happen. Hope it continues.

 

[Nbaro09]

They gotta get him in the regular PK rotation.
I'd bump Olli off of it, if it were me.
Or better yet, just trade Olli for something...

I’d settle with Olli for an orange pylon..that would be just as effective in practice as him