Post-Game Talk: Penguins 4, Coyotes 2 - Thank You Geno for Not Making Us Watch OT

[Tom Hanks]

We were saying similar things (albeit, different issues) around Christmas time last season. There’s still over half a season left.

We have a different roster though. Last years roster didn’t change much from the year before. This time we lost a decent amount of offense (some good defensive players too) so he does have to make some moves for us to make playoffs and be a legit contender again.

The good news is in this current situation we have the right GM to turn it around.

 

[ColePens]

We have a different roster though. Last years roster didn’t change much from the year before. This time we lost a decent amount of offense (some good defensive players too) so he does have to make some moves for us to make playoffs and be a legit contender again.

The good news is in this current situation we have the right GM to turn it around.

The bad news is the teams that best fit our trade partner are buyers and not sellers. That changes the game quite a bit.

 

[ColePens]

Honestly, a lot of people seem to watch the actual games that way too. Every goal against is a colossal failure by someone as opposed to simply a nice play by the other team. Every loss is an indicator that the team is garbage as opposed to the other team just playing well.

There's very little acknowledgement that the other teams exist and are doing all the same things to win that we're doing. It's one of the weirder parts of sports fandom and it's definitely not unique to Pens fans.

I think this post is spot on, however last night was not a good example of it. Last night we did deserve to win. But nonetheless - your argument is great.

Teams are hungrier than us. They deserve the lucky bounces in 1 goal games because they are hungry. 100% agree.

 

[Tom Hanks]

The bad news is the teams that best fit our trade partner are buyers and not sellers. That changes the game quite a bit.

Which probably means a bigger deal is more likely. That’s when it gets a little nervous for us fans.

I’m still hoping he can get the guy who he has been wanting forever (Duchene). I think the holding off on trying other moves because he wanted Duchene so bad has cost us (more so than JR thought) so it’d be poetic to land him now.

 

[Clare2904]

on a good note....tanger has shown signs of life.

Was that when he was doing his hair?

 

[Ogrezilla]

The bad news is the teams that best fit our trade partner are buyers and not sellers. That changes the game quite a bit.

It's going to take a real hockey trade -- not just a typical deadline pickup -- to get us to where JR wants us to be I think.

 

[KIRK]

It's going to take a real hockey trade -- not just a typical deadline pickup -- to get us to where JR wants us to be I think.

More than one methinks, and the meltdown here will be epic.

 

[Ogrezilla]

More than one methinks, and the meltdown here will be epic.

JR right now

 

[Speaking Moistly]

More than one methinks, and the meltdown here will be epic.

Great... sounds terrifying.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

We were saying similar things (albeit, different issues) around Christmas time last season. There’s still over half a season left.

I'm talking specifically about the horrible production at 5 on 5. We didn't have that issue last season.

 

[ncm7772]

Had people over last night, so only watched here and there. Team did not look good, but I will take the two points considering how bad the team is right now.

From what I've seen since he's come back, Murray looks solid, which is good.

Happy to read most of you though Geno was great last night, as he's stunk lately.

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

What I don't understand about the line juggling is that no matter how many times Sully shuffles things he will never ever try certain combinations.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Murray, and Jarry, have been the bright spots. Among a handful this season.

 

[Shaffer]

More than one methinks, and the meltdown here will be epic.

Do you have a time table for when it happens? I’m kinda getting scared now.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Do you have a time table for when it happens? I’m kinda getting scared now.

Most likely right after the trade freeze ends. So Between the 27th-1st. JR cant afford to wait any longer but he also has to have a willing team to make a deal.

 

[Shaffer]

Most likely right after the trade freeze ends. So Between the 27th-1st. JR cant afford to wait any longer but he also has to have a willing team to make a deal.

I think that too.

 

[Ugene Magic]

The bad news is the teams that best fit our trade partner are buyers and not sellers. That changes the game quite a bit.

You only need two buyers that need what each other is selling.

Trades are not all about ripping the bottom dwellers UFA's or players not in their plans away from them. There are mutual partners who have the same goals but don't have all the parts they need that each other does have.

It only takes one partner.

 

[TheSniper26]

What I don't understand about the line juggling is that no matter how many times Sully shuffles things he will never ever try certain combinations.

Sort of beside your point but this is exactly why I think, while there might be a little truth to Crosby not wanting to play with Horny, it's a little overblown around here. If Sid was as against it as people say then I don't think they'd go back to it as much as they do.

If anything, there's probably more to suggest Crosby doesn't want to play with Kessel because he pretty much never does. Even when Geno's out. But I really don't think players are making any demands/requests anyway. The line combos are 100% on the coach in the end.

 

[Night Shift]

More than one methinks, and the meltdown here will be epic.

I'm pretty much open to whatever they decide to move, but the only prospect id like kept is Gustavsson (and Jarry, hopefully stays as the back up). If they move either right now ill be disappointed. Otherwise I'm good with whatever they try to do.

 

[ColePens]

You only need two buyers that need what each other is selling.

Trades are not all about ripping the bottom dwellers UFA's or players not in their plans away from them. There are mutual partners who have the same goals but don't have all the parts they need that each other does have.

It only takes one partner.

I'm not arguing that... but there is no easy way to put it. Vegas was our best partner. They have exactly what we need and many of them. That doesn't change what I wrote one bit. Sure - a trade partner may be somewhere else. That's fair.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Was that when he was doing his hair?

He changed to a more organic shampoo and leave in conditioner and it's been amazing with how his helmet fits which allows his brain to not get over heated which led him to do stupid things.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I'm not arguing that... but there is no easy way to put it. Vegas was our best partner. They have exactly what we need and many of them. That doesn't change what I wrote one bit. Sure - a trade partner may be somewhere else. That's fair.

What I meant specifically was teams in the same boat as the Pens. Teams just sitting outside the wildcard looking for a change to get them in the playoff contention.

We are always just targeting the bottom feeders or a team like Vegas evidently who had a plan to contend for the playoffs right away. They probably were never in the mix at all. Most just thought they would be the typical new franchise and just suck right off the bat.

Times have changed. The Pens made deals with St. Louis, Chicago and the such who were not bottom feeders.

Let's look at some of those teams that could use a shakeup, too.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Looks like COL will be down a top D-Man tonight.
Erik Johnson got 2 games for almost killing Namestnikov.
Would've put this in the pre-game thread but she's still locked.