Discussion in 'Los Angeles Kings' started by Jason Lewis, Nov 11, 2013.
Awesome news on the Pearson call up!
According to Lisa Dilman, Clifford, Carter and Green will not be on this road trip. I guess that means, Stoll is.
I guess TT will continue to play on the 2nd line; Vey on the 4th line and Pearson, all likely on the 3rd line???
That is hardly awesome news that 3 of our regular players are out.
Also, we still need to make a roster move (Fraser maybe?) to get under the salary cap.
Kings have to use IR on a player, but it shouldn't be an issue. They can retroactively place Greene or Clifford on and the 7-day minimum will be met either right as they get back or before in the case of Greene.
As much as it would be nice to see Pearson get the call up it won't happen. We need a roster spot first. So unless another player goes on IR we don't have it. And then there is that little thing call the cap. We have 18K or so right now. So we can't call anyone up without a roster move. And with 16 teams at or near the cap they can't make moves without LTIR or opening a roster spot either.
These problems are also why trying to move a player right now is so tough.
Nice article, Jason!
I'm still a little confused, though, about what it would take to call up Pearson. Just putting a guy on IR wouldn't do the trick, would it? He'd have to go on long-term IR, which seems unlikely given all three guys are day-to-day. And a trade seems even more unlikely at this point, since we need all the guys we can get right now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but unless we put someone on LTIR, all of their salaries will count against the cap. According to Capgeek, we are $18k under the limit. Hence we can't call someone up without shedding salary.
lol. I meant awesome news on the Pearson recall.
It is long term IR, my mistake. It's a matter of how serious the injuries are at this point. I clarified that on my article. I hate all the intricacies of some of these things. Confuse myself sometimes XD
Capgeek does a nice breakdown of LTIR and the salary implications.
In terms of them being "day-to-day". I'm not so sure. Greene coming off a season long back injury..and Clifford getting his "Bell rung" with a history of concussions. Might be DtD, might not.
My guess is Clifford and his 3rd concussion will be out for awhile.
Trade Frattin. Can we keep his retained cap space?
Lewis Stoll Nolan for a fourth line.
No we never had that retained amount to begin with. Trading him would result in us getting around 438K in space.
I would rather scratch Frattin than Carcillo. Carcillo's earned his starts, Frattin hasn't.
I don't care really who's on the fourth.
As long as that's our third line I am happy. Finally a top 9 that can score. That is all I want. Keep the third like that and do whatever you want with the fourth.
And even if he goes on LTIR, only the protion that would put us over the cap is not counted. The portion that brings us up to the cap limit would be counted.
I would scratch Frattin, the guy has had maybe two good games ?
At this point Jordan Nolan should be on that Third line RW spot(hes earned it).
Kind of surprised Fraser isn't gone yet.
How about because it just isn't that easy making a trade this year with the cap having gone down. even with his low salary of 825K there are 16 teams that don't even have that much cap space. Granted 10 of them due to LTIR have enough to take it on. But with 9 of those it would put them to a point where they couldn't even take on a 2.5M contract at the deadline.
Bottom line is that most teams are looking at trading dollar for dollar. So that they have a little room at the deadline to maybe add an impact player. And that wouldn't help us we need a pick or prospect. In order to open the roster and salary. But so does over half the league.
Or you can waive him. At most you'd get a 5th for him. You don't have to trade him.
Why waive an asset when you can get a 5th? A 5th ain't much I agree, but on our roster right now Muzzin, Nolan, Mitchell and Scrivens were all drafted 5th round or later. There's no sense wasting an asset.
Geez, I hope Clifford is okay. Did anybody ever identify the play in which his "bell was rung?"
Buffalo might be the best opportunity to try out a "Kid Line," assuming the GM can make the necessary cap moves.
I know, but 5ths tend to be loooong projects or most of the time nothing special. If this is just for timing, then you can just waive him. There's many players like him, so it will probably take some time to get rid of him.
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