Peak Hasek season vs '21 McDavid

[shelf]

Hasek's best regular season vs McDavids best regular season. Who's was better?

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[ricky0034]

tough to compare

but Hasek did it in a season that was both a full season and without all this Covid schedule/division weirdness so McDavid's would need to be substantially better to be better and i'm confident in saying it definitely wasn't that

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Comparing goalies to skaters is a fool's errand

 

[JETZZZ]

1998 apple vs 2021 orange

 

[Bluto]

That Hasek run in the 1998 Olympics was, in my opinion, the greatest performance in the history of the sport.
2nd would be Lemiuex's performance in the 1991 playoffs.
3rd would be Gretzky's 215 point season.

McD and Hasek's regular seasons are pretty comparable. Both carried pretty mediocre teams and played out of their minds. Hard call for sure. That being said It's pretty hard to compete with Gretzky having 4 200 point regular seasons to his name for best regular season ever. Seems like Gretzky has the top 4 regular seasons (hell maybe top 8) followed by Lemieux's 199.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Hasek's accomplishments are even more impressive when you look at the junk that he played behind.

 

[Sky04]

Lets wait till McDavid's playoff is over becasue Hasek's peak regular season including carrying a garbage Buffalo team to the Stanley Cup Finals... he wasn't a regular season wonder.

 

[nowhereman]

Hasek's accomplishments are even more impressive when you look at the junk that he played behind.

Yeah, it's one thing for a forward to score a bunch of points on a subpar roster but it's another for a guy to carry a subpar team to the Finals during the peak of the late 1990s powerhouses. What Hasek did at his best was other-worldly. The top five skaters on that Buffalo squad were Peca, Satan, Brown, Zhitnik and Woolley... unbelievable.

 

[SotasicA]

Yeah, I never liked Hasek. I felt like he ruined the whole game in the late 90's. I can't not vote against him. So glad he at least lost in '99. Golden Brett FTW

 

[nowhereman]

Yeah, I never liked Hasek. I felt like he ruined the whole game in the late 90's. I can't not vote against him. So glad he at least lost in '99. Golden Brett FTW

How exactly did he ruin the game, outside of being better than everyone else? Outside of Lemieux, there was no single player who was more impactful on their team's success during the 1990s than Hasek. Funny enough, he was so uniquely good, that he didn't actually impact the goaltending position to the extent that Roy and Brodeur did, since nobody could even do what he did.

 

[SotasicA]

How exactly did he ruin the game, outside of being better than everyone else? Outside of Lemieux, there was no single player who was more impactful on their team's success during the 1990s than Hasek.

He didn't let in enough goals.

 

[nowhereman]

He didn't let in enough goals.

Ahh, I see...

 

[Hockeyholic]

Yeah, it's one thing for a forward to score a bunch of points on a subpar roster but it's another for a guy to carry a subpar team to the Finals during the peak of the late 1990s powerhouses. What Hasek did at his best was other-worldly. The top five skaters on that Buffalo squad were Peca, Satan, Brown, Zhitnik and Woolley... unbelievable.

Hasek took a terrible team to one OT goal away from game 7. That has to be his most impressive accomplishment. Dallas's 4th or 5th best player would've been the best forward on Buffalo.

I don't think many would've complained too much had he won the Conn Smythe in a losing effort.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

'98 Olympics Hasek is probably top of the list for greatest performance in hockey history.

Overall stats:

5-1
1.00 GAA
.965 SV%

The 3 game run to Gold went:

4-1 W vs USA. Stopped 38 of 39 shots
2-1 W vs CAN. Stopped 30 of 31 shots, and a perfect 5 for 5 in the shoot out
1-0 vs RUS. Stopped all 20 shots faced

So against the US, Canada and Russia, he had a stat line of:

3-0
0.67 GAA
.978 SV%

Oh, and he did this in the middle of winning the Hart, Pearson (Lindsay) and Vezina back to back

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Peak Hasek is one of the best players to grace the sport

 

[McVespa99]

Impossible to compare. BUT. The best goalie ever can win you more games than pretty much any forward. Probably including Gretz

 

[dortt]

How exactly did he ruin the game, outside of being better than everyone else? Outside of Lemieux, there was no single player who was more impactful on their team's success during the 1990s than Hasek. Funny enough, he was so uniquely good, that he didn't actually impact the goaltending position to the extent that Roy and Brodeur did, since nobody could even do what he did.

Tim Thomas... similar style as Dom. Maybe Dom did have some influence

As for McDavid vs Dom... Dom had a SP about 4 standard deviations above the average NHL goalie. For McDavid to get to that realm, he'd need to have a season where he puts up 170-200 points. That's how dominant Dom was

'98 Olympics Hasek is probably top of the list for greatest performance in hockey history.

Overall stats:

5-1
1.00 GAA
.965 SV%

The 3 game run to Gold went:

4-1 W vs USA. Stopped 38 of 39 shots
2-1 W vs CAN. Stopped 30 of 31 shots, and a perfect 5 for 5 in the shoot out
1-0 vs RUS. Stopped all 20 shots faced

So against the US, Canada and Russia, he had a stat line of:

3-0
0.67 GAA
.978 SV%

Oh, and he did this in the middle of winning the Hart, Pearson (Lindsay) and Vezina back to back

I'd say the 1998 Olympics was one of the greatest performances in all of sports. Better than Tigers 15 shot win at Pebble in 2000 even. Dom was that dominant. After allowing a first period goal in the quarterfinals, the only player to score on him was Richard Smehlik, his own defenseman who always scored own goals, at the end of the Canada game

 

[Bileur]

Very few players in any sport I’d take over peak Hasek.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

It's easily Hasek.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

yes

 

[Fataldogg]

Lets wait till McDavid's playoff is over becasue Hasek's peak regular season including carrying a garbage Buffalo team to the Stanley Cup Finals... he wasn't a regular season wonder.

Yup, and that team had zero business being in the SCF. Hasek was on another level.

 

[amnesiac]

if we consider this season to be McDavid's best (56 games), then no its not better than Hasek's best ( 72 games in 97-98), which is widely considered the greatest single season ever by a goaltender.

 

[jcbeze]

Lets wait till McDavid's playoff is over becasue Hasek's peak regular season including carrying a garbage Buffalo team to the Stanley Cup Finals... he wasn't a regular season wonder.

so a few more days then?

 

[wetcoast]

Comparing goalies to skaters is a fool's errand

Pretty much this but I might take Hasek but didn't vote.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Hasek easy.

Olympics
Took Sabres to the finals