Coach Discussion: Paul Maurice Pt II, The gooder, the badder, the uglier.

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Maukkis

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Me: PDO is one hell of a drug, you know.

Also me: lolwut we suck beyond belief

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mcpw

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Comparison time. First 17 games of last season (Perreault came back in the 18th game, completely changing the team) vs first 14 games this season:

17-18 G1-1718-19 G1-14
5v5 CF%45.82 (30th)50.00 (16th)
5v5 sh%10.26 (3rd)5.81 (30th)
5v5 sv%0.926 (11th)0.922 (14th)
5v5 PDO102.9% (3rd)98.0% (25th)
PP GF/608.31 (4th)12.21 (2nd)
PK GA/607.49 (18th lowest)7.38 (19th lowest)
Record10-4-38-5-1
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Wheeler 5v5:
17-18 G1-17 --- 2.84 P/60, 42.4 CF%, 13.5 oIsh%
18-19 G1-14 --- 0.87 P/60, 47.9 CF%, 5.9 oIsh%

Gotta say I'm more confident in this team than last year's in the early stages.

Last year's team got good when Perreault came back and PauMau started playing four lines, with 11 forwards playing over 10 minutes. Let's see when we will hit that point this year, and who will be our Perreault...
 
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8-5-1 with the second lowest 5v5sh% in the league is certainly an accomplishment.
Plus Helly hasn't been as good as last season so far , we get both of these things going were looking pretty good .
 
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Comparison time. First 17 games of last season (Perreault came back in the 18th game, completely changing the team) vs first 14 games this season:

16-17 G1-1717-18 G1-14
5v5 CF%45.82 (30th)50.00 (16th)
5v5 sh%10.26 (3rd)5.81 (30th)
5v5 sv%0.926 (11th)0.922 (14th)
5v5 PDO102.9% (3rd)98.0% (25th)
PP GF/608.31 (4th)12.21 (2nd)
PK GA/607.49 (18th lowest)7.38 (19th lowest)
Record10-4-38-5-1
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Wheeler 5v5:
16-17 G1-17 --- 2.84 P/60, 42.4 CF%, 13.5 oIsh%
17-18 G1-14 --- 0.87 P/60, 47.9 CF%, 5.9 oIsh%

Gotta say I'm more confident in this team than last year's in the early stages.

Last year's team got good when Perreault came back and PauMau started playing four lines, with 11 forwards playing over 10 minutes. Let's see when we will hit that point this year, and who will be our Perreault...

Good thread. PDO is one helluva drug.
 

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Comparison time. First 17 games of last season (Perreault came back in the 18th game, completely changing the team) vs first 14 games this season:

16-17 G1-1717-18 G1-14
5v5 CF%45.82 (30th)50.00 (16th)
5v5 sh%10.26 (3rd)5.81 (30th)
5v5 sv%0.926 (11th)0.922 (14th)
5v5 PDO102.9% (3rd)98.0% (25th)
PP GF/608.31 (4th)12.21 (2nd)
PK GA/607.49 (18th lowest)7.38 (19th lowest)
Record10-4-38-5-1
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Wheeler 5v5:
16-17 G1-17 --- 2.84 P/60, 42.4 CF%, 13.5 oIsh%
17-18 G1-14 --- 0.87 P/60, 47.9 CF%, 5.9 oIsh%

Gotta say I'm more confident in this team than last year's in the early stages.

Last year's team got good when Perreault came back and PauMau started playing four lines, with 11 forwards playing over 10 minutes. Let's see when we will hit that point this year, and who will be our Perreault...

Good comparison, but I guess 16-17 should be 17-18 and 17-18 respectively 18-19 for headers.
 

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A few coaching factoids re Mau.

Games - 7thYears - 6thWins - 10thLosses - 1stTies - 31stOT Losses - 8thPts - 10thPts% - 126th
Paul Maurice1461216565949911215230.521
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Comparison time. First 17 games of last season (Perreault came back in the 18th game, completely changing the team) vs first 14 games this season:

17-18 G1-1718-19 G1-14
5v5 CF%45.82 (30th)50.00 (16th)
5v5 sh%10.26 (3rd)5.81 (30th)
5v5 sv%0.926 (11th)0.922 (14th)
5v5 PDO102.9% (3rd)98.0% (25th)
PP GF/608.31 (4th)12.21 (2nd)
PK GA/607.49 (18th lowest)7.38 (19th lowest)
Record10-4-38-5-1
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Wheeler 5v5:
17-18 G1-17 --- 2.84 P/60, 42.4 CF%, 13.5 oIsh%
18-19 G1-14 --- 0.87 P/60, 47.9 CF%, 5.9 oIsh%

Gotta say I'm more confident in this team than last year's in the early stages.

Last year's team got good when Perreault came back and PauMau started playing four lines, with 11 forwards playing over 10 minutes. Let's see when we will hit that point this year, and who will be our Perreault...
So when is Perreault coming back this year? :sarcasm:

Really though, that slow start coincided with a Lowry injury as well, I think. And both he and Perreault came back at the same time and suddenly things started rolling. But with those two already in the lineup, where's the equivalent boost coming from this year?
 

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So when is Perreault coming back this year? :sarcasm:

Really though, that slow start coincided with a Lowry injury as well, I think. And both he and Perreault came back at the same time and suddenly things started rolling. But with those two already in the lineup, where's the equivalent boost coming from this year?

Not shooting 5.81%
 

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Maybe Ehlers, MP, and secondary help from Myers, could be the offensive bump we need. Myers is usually a better points contributor. Ehlers and MP haven't got into rhythm yet.
 

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So when is Perreault coming back this year? :sarcasm:

Really though, that slow start coincided with a Lowry injury as well, I think. And both he and Perreault came back at the same time and suddenly things started rolling. But with those two already in the lineup, where's the equivalent boost coming from this year?

I expect improvement in the highlighted area:

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Another coaching factoid, Coach Q has more Cups than any other coach not already in the HHOF.
 
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I had to check to make sure I was in the right thread. I am not entirely sure what PDO and SH% have to do with coaching.

As for the coach, I think he rides with Wheeler, been that day since day 1.

Wheeler is declining. His speed is no longer elite. His passing is still elite, which I think will make him a valuable PP piece for years.

I think a lot of our early struggles come from the passing of the torch. We had vets like Enstrom and Hendricks last year, who really helped the younger players, I think with preparation as much as anything.

The success of this team is based on the leaders. I think Wheeler, Scheif, Little, Lowry, Buff and Morrissey-Trouba have been good. Myers and Perreault have regressed a little.

The 2nd tier needs to step up. We need a lot of goals from Laine, Ehlers, Connor and Roslovic or we are going nowhere. We had over 100 goals from them last year. A decline in their production, when it should be increasing (Look at Debrincat), will affect the team's performance. I think the defense has a lot to do with our success too. It's not as good last year. We don't sustain pressure relentlessly, as our team speed is average at best. Which shouldn't be the case, replacing two of our worst skaters, in Enstrom and Hendricks. For me it's just chemistry missing. And Maurice riding his top line too much, at the expense of their production, 5 on 5.
The need for a top 4 d, a 2nd pairing LHD, to put us in the same caliber as Nashville, Minny and Colorado is glaring.
 

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I had to check to make sure I was in the right thread. I am not entirely sure what PDO and SH% have to do with coaching.

As for the coach, I think he rides with Wheeler, been that day since day 1.

Wheeler is declining. His speed is no longer elite. His passing is still elite, which I think will make him a valuable PP piece for years.

I think a lot of our early struggles come from the passing of the torch. We had vets like Enstrom and Hendricks last year, who really helped the younger players, I think with preparation as much as anything.

The success of this team is based on the leaders. I think Wheeler, Scheif, Little, Lowry, Buff and Morrissey-Trouba have been good. Myers and Perreault have regressed a little.

The 2nd tier needs to step up. We need a lot of goals from Laine, Ehlers, Connor and Roslovic or we are going nowhere. We had over 100 goals from them last year. A decline in their production, when it should be increasing (Look at Debrincat), will affect the team's performance. I think the defense has a lot to do with our success too. It's not as good last year. We don't sustain pressure relentlessly, as our team speed is average at best. Which shouldn't be the case, replacing two of our worst skaters, in Enstrom and Hendricks. For me it's just chemistry missing. And Maurice riding his top line too much, at the expense of their production, 5 on 5.
The need for a top 4 d, a 2nd pairing LHD, to put us in the same caliber as Nashville, Minny and Colorado is glaring.

The team is playing slow which is making them look slow. They need to spend a heck of a lot more time practicing their breakouts, NZ transitions and zone entries.
 

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For me it's just chemistry missing. And Maurice riding his top line too much, at the expense of their production, 5 on 5.

Pretty much..... and almost half of the 100 goals you mentioned came from a guy now on the third line :huh:

Edit: and Debrincat is getting first line TOI and playing with their top center.
 

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Pretty much..... and almost half of the 100 goals you mentioned came from a guy now on the third line :huh:

Edit: and Debrincat is getting first line TOI and playing with their top center.

We have more options but like Chicago there is a drop off in centre 1 and 2. But what makes the Jets dangerous is the 1-2-3 punch we can put together at RW. That's why I am intrigued by putting Connor back with the top line and moving Ehlers to RW with Little/Perreault. Synchronizes our top 2 PPs more. Laine should get some good looks playing on the 3rd line. If there is a centre in our organization who resembles Stastny, it's Lowry. I think his importance defensively negates his offensive potential. And as we develop Suess into a defensive centre I think Lowry will produce more offensively. He and Tanev together is important to keep your PKers fresh. Hopefully the change of Petan in and Lemieux out produces more PPs than PKs so that we can maximize our special teams dominance.
 
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If you really wanted to spread out the offense we could try something like this:

Petan Scheifele Wheeler (Played really well as a line in the game they played)
Perrault Little Ehlers (Played really well together)
Connor Lowry Laine
Tanev Copp Roslovic
 
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