NFL: Patriots Success

[steveayres35]

From the Tuck Rule, Adam Vinatieri, Malcolm Bulter's INT, to the Falcons blowing a 25 point lead, all of their SB victories were solely based on luck & opportunities IMO.

Even though Brady is a talented QB, all of their SB victories could've gone either way, just like the regular season/playoffs as well. Matt Cassel lead them to a 11-5 record, yet they still missed the playoffs. And on any given week, the Patriots either win or lose, depending on what happens during the game.

Finally, the bottom line is that they don't make costly mistakes as often as other teams. They also have discipline, except for AB, & even though they cheat/are favored by the refs here & there, who else is surprised that they never had an "off year", yet? Even the best of teams have an off year or two.

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[blueandgoldguy]

And on any given week, the Patriots either win or lose, depending on what happens during the game.

I think this applies to every single team in the history of sports, don't you?

 

[pockets]

From the Tuck Rule, Adam Vinatieri, Malcolm Bulter's INT, to the Falcons blowing a 25 point lead, all of their SB victories were solely based on luck & opportunities IMO.

Even though Brady is a talented QB, all of their SB victories could've gone either way, just like the regular season/playoffs as well. Matt Cassel lead them to a 11-5 record, yet they still missed the playoffs. And on any given week, the Patriots either win or lose, depending on what happens during the game.

Finally, the bottom line is that they don't make costly mistakes as often as other teams. They also have discipline, except for AB, & even though they cheat/are favored by the refs here & there, who else is surprised that they never had an "off year", yet? Even the best of teams have an off year or two.

You should hang out with ChrisK, I think you two would get along

 

[Sir Buckinghamshire]

Nobody should begrudge the success of the patriots. Their perceived good breaks only seem to occur more than other than normal because they seemingly always play till the very end of the year every year. Thus eyes are always on them and when they make things work out it just seems like the usual.

 

[DangleCity]

From the Tuck Rule, Adam Vinatieri, Malcolm Bulter's INT, to the Falcons blowing a 25 point lead, all of their SB victories were solely based on luck & opportunities IMO.

Even though Brady is a talented QB, all of their SB victories could've gone either way, just like the regular season/playoffs as well. Matt Cassel lead them to a 11-5 record, yet they still missed the playoffs. And on any given week, the Patriots either win or lose, depending on what happens during the game.

Finally, the bottom line is that they don't make costly mistakes as often as other teams. They also have discipline, except for AB, & even though they cheat/are favored by the refs here & there, who else is surprised that they never had an "off year", yet? Even the best of teams have an off year or two.

The pretzels people twist themselves into instead of just giving the Patriots credit is mind blowing

 

[PanthersPens62]

Just another jealous hater.

 

[Tuggy]

Yes, 20 years of success has been luck.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

And they could have easily won all 3 SBs they lost in the BB/TB12.

Tyree's helmet catch, Manningham's sideline catch...

I mean, it goea both ways

 

[RockLobster]

I've personally subscribed to a begrudging respect of Brady/Belichick/the Patriots.

I mean this level of sustained success/dominance in this era of sports is rather unique. We read about sports history but seemingly (at least to me) never get much of a chance to witness it. Personally I've moved from indifference, to jealous, to what I said above--begrudging respect.

(Jealous because I'm a huge Peyton Manning fan and I could only wish/dream that he had the level of success TB12 has...and he had a bonafide HoF career)

 

[Crossfire Hurricane]

This might be the saddest one of all these threads yet.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Good teams make the plays to win games, and bad teams don't, call it luck if you want but they make it happen week in and week out. This is a sustained era of success that we may not see in a pro sport again in decades

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

They cheat to win. They win because they're better at cheating than everyone else who attempts to do so. Go back to the 2003 AFCCG. Their DBs were holding WRs on every freaking play so much that they had to change the damn rules. Shady Brady & Bill Belicheat. Don't underestimate the advantages of spying on opponents either. Nobody is actually that good, especially in football.

 

[SouthGeorge]

What about Kraft this offseason? Gordon being banned for life if he fails another drug test and fails like 2 more after that? Pedelman being Super Bowl MVP. All their players failing for PEDs. QB playing at age 42 and isn't aging one bit. Clearly on something. Chandler Jones with Gronk running around naked outside a police station. Oh no worries, it was only legal K2 and he can play in the playoffs. Hernandez . Spygate. Deflategate. Tuck rule. Former players telling Peyton and Dungy they bug lockerrooms at home. Steelers headsets magically not working in Foxboro. They bug play calling rooms too. Circumventing the cap and paying players under the table and doing things like they did with AB. The constant love from the refs.

 

[steveayres35]

What about Kraft this offseason? Gordon being banned for life if he fails another drug test and fails like 2 more after that? Pedelman being Super Bowl MVP. All their players failing for PEDs. QB playing at age 42 and isn't aging one bit. Clearly on something. Chandler Jones with Gronk running around naked outside a police station. Oh no worries, it was only legal K2 and he can play in the playoffs. Hernandez . Spygate. Deflategate. Tuck rule. Former players telling Peyton and Dungy they bug lockerrooms at home. Steelers headsets magically not working in Foxboro. They bug play calling rooms too. Circumventing the cap and paying players under the table and doing things like they did with AB. The constant love from the refs.

Great response

 

[justafan22]

And they could have easily won all 3 SBs they lost in the BB/TB12.

Tyree's helmet catch, Manningham's sideline catch...

I mean, it goea both ways

The paranoia in this thread is laughable.

 

[DangleCity]

They cheat to win. They win because they're better at cheating than everyone else who attempts to do so. Go back to the 2003 AFCCG. Their DBs were holding WRs on every freaking play so much that they had to change the damn rules. Shady Brady & Bill Belicheat. Don't underestimate the advantages of spying on opponents either. Nobody is actually that good, especially in football.

So if they had to change the rule, then they weren't breaking any rules or doing anything wrong. Seems like the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Tremendous logic, would not expect anything less from someone using the names "Shady Brady" and "Bill Belicheat".


Also, your last line is just tremendous.

 

[DangleCity]

What about Kraft this offseason? Gordon being banned for life if he fails another drug test and fails like 2 more after that? Pedelman being Super Bowl MVP. All their players failing for PEDs. QB playing at age 42 and isn't aging one bit. Clearly on something. Chandler Jones with Gronk running around naked outside a police station. Oh no worries, it was only legal K2 and he can play in the playoffs. Hernandez . Spygate. Deflategate. Tuck rule. Former players telling Peyton and Dungy they bug lockerrooms at home. Steelers headsets magically not working in Foxboro. They bug play calling rooms too. Circumventing the cap and paying players under the table and doing things like they did with AB. The constant love from the refs.

Dont forget Bill infecting Demaryius Thomas with Mono and then sending him to the Jets to infect Darnold.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

And they could have easily won all 3 SBs they lost in the BB/TB12.

Tyree's helmet catch, Manningham's sideline catch...

I mean, it goea both ways

I love how haters always leave that part out. Could have easily won those 3 SB

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

So if they had to change the rule, then they weren't breaking any rules or doing anything wrong. Seems like the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Tremendous logic, would not expect anything less from someone using the names "Shady Brady" and "Bill Belicheat".


Also, your last line is just tremendous.

They didn't change the rules, just the way they were enforced. The rule that they slightly changed was the illegal touching one. Before that game, if a reciever went out of bounds they were ineligible. Afterward, they were able to receive the ball if they re-established themselves inbounds. Belichick ended up having his DBs grab Colts WR and ride them out of bounds as quickly as possible. It was against the spirit of the rules. Those rules both existed but Belichick exploited the enforcement of them to game the system. He cheated.

 

[CDJ]

Mmmmmmmm the tears, so salty yet so delicious

 

[izlez]

And on any given week, the Patriots either win or lose, depending on what happens during the game.

Preach it, brother!

 

[YEM]

how good can they be if they can't ever beat a NFC East team in a Super Bowl?
the whole division owns them in big games...

 

[Voight]

Is this ChrisK or South George's burner account by chance? Anyone know?

 

[Voight]

From the Tuck Rule, Adam Vinatieri, Malcolm Bulter's INT, to the Falcons blowing a 25 point lead, all of their SB victories were solely based on luck & opportunities IMO.

Even though Brady is a talented QB, all of their SB victories could've gone either way, just like the regular season/playoffs as well. Matt Cassel lead them to a 11-5 record, yet they still missed the playoffs. And on any given week, the Patriots either win or lose, depending on what happens during the game.

Finally, the bottom line is that they don't make costly mistakes as often as other teams. They also have discipline, except for AB, & even though they cheat/are favored by the refs here & there, who else is surprised that they never had an "off year", yet? Even the best of teams have an off year or two.

So if they had to change the rule, then they weren't breaking any rules or doing anything wrong. Seems like the exact opposite of what you are claiming. Tremendous logic, would not expect anything less from someone using the names "Shady Brady" and "Bill Belicheat".


Also, your last line is just tremendous.

What's hilarious is it was Precious Peyton that got Polian to make the league change the rules so he could win some playoff games & finally make it to the Super Bowl.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The pretzels people twist themselves into instead of just giving the Patriots credit is mind blowing

Come on man, how many fanbases give the other team credit. It is the refs, bad luck, the league is out to get us ect ect. Every fanbase is guilty of it.